For hiring, I completely agree with you.

For firing, I think that the bar here is sufficiently high that it is not 
unreasonable to allow it to apply to the CEO as well.

Really, if there is such overwhelming desire by the community to remove the CEO 
that it reaches this threshold, do you believe it is good governance for the 
board to keep such person in place?

Owen

> On Nov 6, 2016, at 19:43 , Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Owen,
> 
> In the interest of good governance and proper respect of process and 
> structure, I believe that the ability to hire and fire the CEO should remain 
> solely with the Board of Directors. Nevertheless, the Board could consider 
> providing a separate guideline(outside of the bylaw) that enables members to 
> express their dissatisfaction about a particular CEO's action.
> 
> Regards
> 
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:00 AM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com 
> <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote:
> Should the CEO be exempt if he/she becomes sufficiently unpopular with the 
> membership that they are able to recall him through this process?
> 
> No disrespect to the current CEO intended (and I can’t imagine such a 
> petition succeeding against him anyway), but I see no reason the position 
> should be exempt from such a challenge.
> 
> Owen
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 02:23 , Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojed...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:seun.ojed...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Alan,
>> 
>> Thanks for sending this across, a few "personal" comments below:
>> 
>> 1. For item 7: I think 13.8b is sufficient hence 13.8c may not be needed; We 
>> don't have to formerly restrict things to that extent.
>> 
>> 2. For item 12: I am not sure the proposed resolution would change the fact 
>> that registered members can change the bylaw(as per the act). Even though I 
>> have no problem with your proposed changes.
>> 
>> 3. For item 16: This seem to imply that the registered member who is subject 
>> to removal still has a vote. I have no problem with that, just want to be 
>> sure that was your intent. 
>> 
>> Secondly while I do not expect this clause to be used often/never(well I 
>> hope). It will be good to explicitly exclude the CEO to be opened to such 
>> removal process  (even though i know it's implied). 
>> 
>> In an almost impossible situation where there are quite a number of removal 
>> that could affect the work of the Board (like forming a quorum), it may be 
>> good to clarify what would happen to the seats.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Sent from my LG G4
>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>> 
>> 
>> On 4 Nov 2016 23:57, "Alan Barrett" <alan.barr...@afrinic.net 
>> <mailto:alan.barr...@afrinic.net>> wrote:
>> Dear community,
>> 
>> Here is the next round of suggestions for Bylaws changes.
>> 
>> In cases where the previous proposal identified an issue but did not propose 
>> text, I am now proposing text.  I am also proposing a few additional changes 
>> to address issues raised by others.  Finally, I am proposing a change to 
>> address a problem with approving the annual financial statements.
>> 
>> I intend to propose all these bylaws changes as special resolutions at the 
>> AFRINIC-25 SGMM, possibly with edits resulting from further review and 
>> discussion.
>> 
>> Alan Barrett
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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