On 07/11/2016 20:14, Seun Ojedeji wrote: > Sent from my LG G4 > Kindly excuse brevity and typos > > On 7 Nov 2016 11:26 p.m., "Owen DeLong" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Really, if there is such overwhelming desire by the community to > remove the CEO that it reaches this threshold, do you believe it is good > governance for the board to keep such person in place? >> > > SO: Actually if there is such overwhelming desire to fire the CEO from > the community, then it would indeed imply bad governance and the > community should fire the Board for not performing her fiduciary duties > by doing the needful (when required). > > The one that hires fires and the one that elected should be empowered to > remove. Community elected the Board, Board hires the CEO. I still > believe it will be very wrong to expose Staff(CEO or other staff) to > such removal option by the community while there is still an > organisation Board existing.
MJE: Totally agree with you Seun. Community deals with the Board. The Board deals with the CEO - etc. > Regards > >> Owen >> >>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 19:43 , Seun Ojedeji <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Owen, >>> >>> In the interest of good governance and proper respect of process and > structure, I believe that the ability to hire and fire the CEO should > remain solely with the Board of Directors. Nevertheless, the Board could > consider providing a separate guideline(outside of the bylaw) that > enables members to express their dissatisfaction about a particular > CEO's action. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 6:00 AM, Owen DeLong <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Should the CEO be exempt if he/she becomes sufficiently unpopular > with the membership that they are able to recall him through this process? >>>> >>>> No disrespect to the current CEO intended (and I can’t imagine such > a petition succeeding against him anyway), but I see no reason the > position should be exempt from such a challenge. >>>> >>>> Owen >>>> >>>>> On Nov 5, 2016, at 02:23 , Seun Ojedeji <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Alan, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for sending this across, a few "personal" comments below: >>>>> >>>>> 1. For item 7: I think 13.8b is sufficient hence 13.8c may not be > needed; We don't have to formerly restrict things to that extent. >>>>> >>>>> 2. For item 12: I am not sure the proposed resolution would change > the fact that registered members can change the bylaw(as per the act). > Even though I have no problem with your proposed changes. >>>>> >>>>> 3. For item 16: This seem to imply that the registered member who > is subject to removal still has a vote. I have no problem with that, > just want to be sure that was your intent. >>>>> >>>>> Secondly while I do not expect this clause to be used > often/never(well I hope). It will be good to explicitly exclude the CEO > to be opened to such removal process (even though i know it's implied). >>>>> >>>>> In an almost impossible situation where there are quite a number of > removal that could affect the work of the Board (like forming a quorum), > it may be good to clarify what would happen to the seats. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Sent from my LG G4 >>>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 4 Nov 2016 23:57, "Alan Barrett" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear community, >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is the next round of suggestions for Bylaws changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> In cases where the previous proposal identified an issue but did > not propose text, I am now proposing text. I am also proposing a few > additional changes to address issues raised by others. Finally, I am > proposing a change to address a problem with approving the annual > financial statements. >>>>>> >>>>>> I intend to propose all these bylaws changes as special > resolutions at the AFRINIC-25 SGMM, possibly with edits resulting from > further review and discussion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alan Barrett -- Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa [email protected] Tel: +27.128070590 Cell: +27.826010496 For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: https://ftth.posix.co.za
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