On Sun, 2004-09-26 at 17:57, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
[...]
> I think it is called the Apache Way, i.e. I haven't earned the respect of
> others to have a different opinion about the ASF internals, nor does my view
> that what 100 people (members) is informed of, can be shared with the
Commenting a board decision with sniping comments like
"[...] Unfortunately, we have been told by the overlords of ASF that
users doesn't matter much. That can also be seen on many projects where
the users@ mailing [...]
on the avalon mailing lists won't help your case much.
> remaining set of committers that makes out this community. Apperently my
> Scandinavian background of complete transparency is not compatible with the
> more secretive athmosphere around here.
And implying that you, because of your "scandinavian background of
complete transparency" are not compatible with the ASF does IMHO not,
either. The ASF consists of individuals from all over the world. Yes,
there are opinion clashes in the projects, on the TLP PMCs but generally
spoken, I haven't met a more forgiving bunch of different dedvelopers
than the ASF. Have you ever been subscribed to linux-kernel? :-)
You seem to want to do "your thing" inside the ASF. This does not seem
to work as the current state of the Avalon community implies, because
there are different opinions or even politics. If you insist on forking
Avalon (with the Metro TLP), why not fork off-ASF? e.g. to
codehaus.org?
Why not incubate Metro before calling for a TLP? Is it the reduced
visibility?
Regards
Henning
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