On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 10:19 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> > I do not view myself as a gatekeeper,  and more importantly, that is
> > not a role I desire (for myself or anyone  else).  However, I'm not
> > self-deluded enough to believe that because I  aspire to lofty 
> > ideals, that I somehow do not possess access to a controlled  
> > resource _that others do not_.
>
> Then perhaps your portrayal of the typical role for an Apache
> committer was "exaggerated for effect".

I had thought I was precise in my wording, and I've reread my messages
to this thread, can you point me at the alleged exaggeration?  Or is it
that you in general object to the term "gatekeeper" in reference to the
relationship between someone who possess access rights to a controlled
resource, and someone who does not. 

> When the day comes that most of our patch submissions to jira are
> git-formatted (and hence incompatible with svn) I will be far more
> receptive to the idea that svn is a greater barrier to community
> participation than svn is.

Umm... what?

> > If anything, my interest in a  decentralized version control system 
> > is to even the playing field, remove  obstacles, and empower 
> > contributors.

> Sure, but you have to ask yourself why it is that Apache committers
> tend to make a *lot* more noise about this than our contributors do.
> I suspect the motivation is more "because git is so powerful" than the
> more idealistic notion that "git levels the playing field".  But I
> commend your idealism nonetheless. 

Maybe the barrier to having yourself heard is even greater than code
contribution, or maybe it's more intimidating.  Maybe it is because
committers (those with the respective access rights on svn.apache.org),
are the ones saddled with coordinating contributions in patch form from
multiple sources.  Maybe it's because "Git is so powerful" and they want
to leverage that power (is that wrong?).

-- 
Eric Evans
eev...@rackspace.com


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