(this is snipped from the digest version, condensed to

one post.  thank you for all your replies.)

> Are you sure it's ADB (4 pin socket) or did you mean
> it's a serial port 
> card (8 pin socket)? ADB is for connecting mouse,
> keyboard, and other 
> input devices. A serial port would be much more
> understandable. Then 
> maybe you could do Appletalk.

It has a 4 pin socket.

> Ya know, yer not giving your little Classic enough
> credit.
> 
> I can email and internet with 4MB of RAM on my
> Classic using
> a ny number of modems I have, a Global Village
> Platinum, A US Robotics
> Sportster 33.6, A Supra Express 33.6.

Two problems there.  My Classic is the stripped-down 
version - 1MB RAM and no internal hard drive. 
Luckily,
I got it with a 60MB external SCSI drive, but I have
no idea where to go to get a RAM expansion, since my
general method of procuring computer parts is from
boxes
people want to throw out.

> Netatalk. You could log on to MBP which is hosted on
> linux. MBP could 
> be accessed by phone also but the distance between
> us makes that 
> unworkable. ;)

Yes, my other problem with a modem is my non-ownership
of a phone.  My Debian has netatalk in it, and I'm
sure
i can configure it on the Linux side, it's the Mac
side
I'm unsure of.  This is still very novel to me.

> Every full distro of nix I have has a ftp server, a
> very nice person 
> from the UK sent me a SCSI > ethernet converter
> after seeing a post 
> from me on this list. Makes life easier for most
> things! even without 
> netatalk. Well worth buying if you have a soft spot
> for ether 
> challanged classics.

I have a soft spot for old apples in general, but this
is my first Macintosh.

> I hope Peter replies to your question. I cant see
> the need for a ISA - 
> ADB card although I can count myself as a pc user
> who wouldn't mind 
> one. The card must be ID'd before cables are
> connected to anything. 
> Hopefully Peter hasn't tested things without knowing
> what the card is.

I haven't tested the ISA card yet.  It has very little

in the way of identifying marks.  There is a date on
it, 
1987, but no company or serial number that I can see.
The border of the card is kinda perforated, as though
it
wasn't totally finished.  The port has four pins.  In
the
same box came a mouse that plugs into the port on the
card.  The mouse says "Logitech" on the top, and looks
like it once had a sticker on the bottom.  Again, no
serial number or any other such identifier.  The mouse
has three buttons.  I did try the mouse into the
keyboard
on my Classic, and it fits fine and works.  Each of
the
three buttons clicks, and do the same thing as my
regular
one-button mouse.  I don't have a camera to post
pictures,
unfortunately.  I haven't any idea what kind of
drivers
or software it might need to function on my PC, as it
came
with no disks or documentation.

> Store the old modem as a meseum piece and make a
> null modem cable, 
> better instructions than I can give can be found
> here:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/pc2mac.html
> I trust you'll find the right link yourself. ;)

Thank you.  I'll look into that.  I want to make this
Mac as functional as I can without spending a lot of
money.

> ISA *ADB* card? You sure? Not a bus mouse card or
> something?

Well, the port on the card doesn't say Copyright
Apple,
but the mouse fits in it, and functions on the Mac 
through it's actual ADB port.  Perhaps it's a
third-party
device using the ADB specs or something.

> Dayna made an ISA localtalk card, to the untrained
> eye, an ADB port  
> looks like a Serial port!
> 
> Could that be it??

I don't think so.  The port looks quite different than
a serial port.

The box also came with a ton of other weird stuff for
slightly newer/better Macs than what I have.  Most of
it
requires newer hardware than I have, like 1991-1992ish

stuff.  I'd be interested in trading some of it for 
things that will work in mine.  Email me offlist if 
you'd be interested.

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