Jack
On Feb 15, 2005, at 5:11 PM, Dr.O.M.Betz wrote:
At 8:27 AM -0500 2/15/05, Brian wrote:<snip><snip>The problem I recently had (posted on another list) was that you often need *2* types of authentication going now, for SMTP access. And I was using a client that only did one of them well, and a second not quite right.
SMTP Auth is the traditional one, and I'm fairly certain Eudora 3 can do that. It's just login/password authentication, not encrypted.
But providers now are also insisting on SSL connections (like https is secured) to send via their SMTP servers, especially if you are coming from an IP that isn't one of "theirs" (thinking broadband, here). I'm rathersure Eudora 3 can't do SSL, and even Eudora 5 is a little quirky (I had to upgrade my laptop to Eudora 6 as 5.1 wasn't current enough for comcast, my provider).
So, I'm guessing you are having SSL issues not SMTP Auth issues, really. That's just a guess. We need your OS and maybe your provider info to be able to tell you more or recommend anything.
I just started using SSL and had some problems getting it to work. It turned out that I needed to use the TLS 1.0 option in SSL to get it to work.
-- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting
Thanks everybody for the input. I'm getting aware of the ambiguity of the
word "authentication" because in some environments it seems to be a term of
general usage and in others it designates a very specific way of proving to
be the one you pretend to be. First off, surely you are right that the
usability of a software depends on the OS used. But I am after a "one size
fits all" solution, like Eudora 3.1.3 runs on my SE/30 with 7.5.5 as well
as it does on a G4 with 9.2.2; you bet I've been through the whole of the
"settings" menu looking for a possibility to find additional authentication
for sending, but the only instance where the word appears is in the
"checking mail" subset (Passwords vs. Kerberos vs. APOP), and there is no
such in the "sending mail" menu. When I fire up Eudora to check mail, it
sends my user ID and password to my ISP which is T-Online aka btx.dtag.de,
and this is all I need for sending mail from my [EMAIL PROTECTED] account.
The POP server asks for a special password, of course. My other accounts at
Freenet and GMX let me check mail with my respective password but they
don't allow me to send mail with my usual Eudora settings but require a
ASMTP setup (which, as far as my little understanding goes, has nothing to
do with SSL; sorry Brian, but secure socket layer is a browser thing in my
small world of telecommunication. Please correct me if I'm wrong.). Hence
my question about an ASMTP-capable eMail client; it should be simple,
text-only, bullet-proof, run from 7.1 up if possible and be capable to brew
a decent cup of tea ;-) . O.K., a real thing doing ASMTP as a mere
additional password prompt on a send command would be just fine, OS as you
like...
Just another thought: I dislike the kind of communication different
versions of Eudora have with each other. I ended up trashing all versions
of Eudora 5 and 6 I had installed for trial because they always jumped in
when I started different setups of Eudora 3, trying to use Eudora 3's
settings and f...ing my whole eMail environment up. Maybe the basic idea
was to facilitate "upgrades" to bloatware (read: more ads) but it turned
out as a PITA.
I'll check for QuickMail. Don't know if there ever was a RFC for ASMTP, but
I'll check that, too; you may be right there, Jack. Moving up the Eudora
line isn't necessarily progress, that's one thing I learned. But I'll try
to check out if they introduced ASMTP at some point in time.
Thanks for all, folks. I'll report any, even moderate, success.
Cheers, OM
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