The only problems is that it IS more work for me. It doesn't quite run itself - however we are getting better at it and it's not too bad now that we have ironed out most of the problems.
So it anyone else wants to help - let me know. currently we have 17 computers helping out: Games: 8 Dailey P4 Games: 23 Hideki site 5 Games: 29 MWilliams1 Games: 30 terry duo_1 Games: 30 terry duo_2 Games: 31 terry quad_1 Games: 32 MWilliams2 Games: 37 Heikki AMD64 Games: 40 Jeff sp Games: 53 terry quad_2 Games: 84 Jeff cn Games: 94 Hideki site 2 Games: 100 Hideki stie 1 Games: 105 Frank site 2 Games: 124 Dailey site 1 Games: 132 Dailey site 2 Games: 173 Frank site 1 - Don terry mcintyre wrote: > I encourage anybody with an extra computer running Linux, or with a duo or > quad core, to consider running an instance of Don's study. I have a duo and > quad available, and each instance of the study maxes out one core, so I > started four instances and still have two cores available, leaving me plenty > of computer power. ( I sure love Moore's Law! ) > > It's all very low-maintenance; start the programs, send a "signature" to Don, > and leave it alone. > > Terry McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: computer-go <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:59:26 AM > Subject: Re: [computer-go] New scalability study : show uncertainty ? > > > I might add that an unexpected benefit of running this study is that > I'm > now aware of a scalability issue in FatMan. > > I probably should have put Lazarus in the study instead - it's a good > bit stronger and now I would like to know if it has a similar problem! > > - Don > > > Don Dailey wrote: > >> Jacques Basaldúa wrote: >> >> >>> Hideki Kato wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> It's rather odd. I'm checking the log file and then I will check >>>>> > the > >>>>> source code to see if I have some artificial limits in there. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> Why odd? It all depends on the bias or policy of simulations. If >>>> there is a flaw in the policy, the score will converses to the >>>> > score > >>>> with some error, which will introduce some limit of scalability, >>>> isn't it? >>>> >>>> >>> That is a very good point. Perhaps it is not the case with FatMan, >>> > but > >>> that may surely happen. In this study no program is playing with >>> uniformly random playouts and perhaps only uniformly random playouts >>> will scale to perfection. Of course, I can imagine that reaching the >>> strength of Mogo_13 with uniformly random playouts can require a >>> number of simulations that is not feasible. So I don't have any idea >>> about how to improve the study, but this is a serious limitation >>> > that > >>> has to be considered: If you find some ceiling, the ceiling may be >>> attributed to the playout policy, not to UCT. >>> >>> >> I think there is a performance bug in FatMan causing the lack of >> scalability. FatMan should play perfectly given enough time but it >> looks like it stopped. >> >> For instance one problem that would make it stop improving is an >> arbitrary limit on depth. I do have an arbitrary limit of 30 ply, >> but I don't think this is a problem at these time-controls. In fact >> > I > >> run a version off-line where I instrument this and it does not exceed >> > 25 > >> ply in any line over one whole game. >> >> There are other things that would put a hard limit on how strong it >> could potentially play, but I haven't found it yet. >> >> - Don >> >> >> >> >>> Jacques. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> computer-go mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> computer-go mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > _______________________________________________ > computer-go mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ > > _______________________________________________ computer-go mailing list [email protected] http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
