I don’t have linux versions, so you would have to use wine.  I was thinking
of enabling a few machines with codes.  I don’t want to give out a gtp
version without copy protection.

 

David

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Dailey
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 5:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] scalability study

 

The edge-move veto was conditional.   I think the condition was that there
must be no stones nearby and I think nearby was within 2 points (cannot be
touching,  our touching a point that is touching.)    But I'm not positive
that was the correct rule.

 

I would be willing to use Fotland Bot's but I'm not sure he has linux
versions and also I don't know if he is willing to pass them around to us.  

 

Don

 

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:04 AM, René van de Veerdonk
<[email protected]> wrote:

For Pachi the data has already been posted by Jean-Loup, and for Fuego there
is also a published ceiling according to the scaling study in the (free
download) paper from Richard Segal on BlueFuego (someone sent out a link
within the last two weeks, too lazy to check who). Being limited to Linux
rules my cpu's out, otherwise I wouldn't mind donating some cores. Also, if
David is willing to donate executables to the study, I don't see why that's
not acceptable, i.e., that's as good as "free" to me.

 

I am running a mini-scaling experiment on CGOS 9x9 right now using the AMAF
standard bots (as originally implemented by Don Dailey) with and without
edge-move veto's. They now have all received about 10,000 games, I should
stop it and summarize the data (this experiment also confirmed that
Elo-ratings converged to below 9 Elo sigma). Each level doubles the number
of playouts. Obviously, CGOS time settings won't allow too many doublings
before you run out of time, so there is only 6 levels for each
configuration. I did find it noteworthy that the ratings in the Bayes-Elo
list are more as expected (in that the ranking is what I would expect) as
compared to the incremental ones on the server itself.

René

 

On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 8:54 PM, David Fotland <[email protected]>
wrote:

Maybe Pachi and Fuego?  They are both free I think.

 

David

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Dailey
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:11 PM


To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] scalability study

 

 

Unfortunatelly again, all of my pcs are busy for my research


work/experiments in this year or more (perhaps, until I'll finish my
thesis).

 

If we do a study it won't be dependent on any particular computer,  it will
be a big group effort and we should only use programs that are available on
all the target machines.   

 

It will be very easy to manage if it's done via ssh to remote linux
computers.  It's also possible to set up remote ssh on windows,  but I have
no idea how to do that and don't want to get into it unless someone else is
willing to take the lead on this.   Stuff like this is always hard in
Windows and easy on Unix. 

 

What are the best 2 programs that are freely available for such a study
(that we do not have to pay for) so that we can get some people willing to
give me an account on their machine?    

 

Don

 

 

 

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