>Sony-NW-S205F
>Make no doubt, the software from sony is beyond horrible...

That is sad, but I think it does come with a free root kit.

This has often been the case with Apple's competition, they define the 
product too narrowly. The totality of the iPod was iPod + iTunes + the 
iTunes Store + Podcasting. None of Apple's competitors figured that out. 
Not waiting for them to figure it out Apple has now raised the bar with 
the iPhone and the iPod Touch.


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