To clarify a little...darwin refers to the base os and has nothing to do with the UI...which was or is called Aqua. It is possible to download Darwin on any pc and run it with xwindows or rather a port called xdarwin, which is xwindows ported to darwin.
Mike On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Paul Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom, > The UI which you claims suck in osx actually > comes from Darwin (iirc) and not BSD per se. > I don't know any compelling technical reason > why a OS9 not UI could be implemented on top of BSD > (even on top of *nix, X-Windows based technology). > > Listening to you OSX critiques, I could never quite figure > out if Apple was having trouble trying to merge to two different > UI's, or if the BSD (Darwin/Gnome?) UI sucked all by itself, or if Apple > has just lost focus on the UI. > (Of course I am not too qualified to comment on the classic Apple UI, > since I just figured out that my apple mouse actually does have > "two" buttons) > -Paul Meyer > > Checkout One Laptop Per Child project laptop.org > > > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] OMG! Gates Agrees With Tom > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:04 PM > > >During his farewell event at Microsoft this morning, > > Gates referred to this, > > >and poked a little fun at us: "One of the > > newspapers had some e-mail that I > > >sent about how maybe Windows could have been better at > > something, and they > > >said, 'This is a shocking e-mail. Shocking!' > > And I said, 'What do you think > > >I do all day? Sending an e-mail like that, that is my > > job. That's what it's > > >all about. We're here to make things better. > > > > Okay. He doesn't completely agree with me. He knows > > Windows sucks, but > > mistakenly thinks he can apply band aids to make it better. > > I guess he > > either did not read or did not understand Demming. Demming > > teaches that > > quality is not something you lard on afterwards, you have > > to build it in > > from the start. > > > > A great example is Apple's OS X. OS X sucks because it > > is based on BSD > > Unix, which sucks. After eight years of trying to paper > > over the problems > > OS X still sucks. OS 9, while now outdated, was much better > > because they > > got the critical user interface things right the first > > time. This weekend > > I got my wife to upgrade from 9 to X and having to explain > > the OS X UI > > absurdities was maddening. > > > > iPod was so great because Apple got the UI right from the > > beginning. > > > > iPhone I don't know. If it is based on OS X it may very > > well suck too. > > > > > > ************************************************************************* > > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, > > archives, privacy ** > > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at > > http://www.cguys.org/ ** > > ************************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************************* > ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** > ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** > ************************************************************************* > ************************************************************************* ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *************************************************************************
