Actually, an abbreviation of "AMCF" is not bad either.... kinda
like
that myself. But I'm still not sure I like any of the book title
choices I've offered myself here.
Do we dare use "Manifold Connectors Framework in Action"? and
describe AMCF as "Manifold Connectors Framework" at times?
Karl
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Karl Wright <daddy...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> If this is adopted, I'm thinking we could use it in the
following > >
> ways:
>
> Abbreviation: "MCF"
> Short name: "ManifoldCF"
> Qualified short name: "Apache ManifoldCF"
> Fully qualified and unabbreviated name: "the Apache Manifold
> Connectors Framework"
>
> I'm not quite sure what the world will think of that last
usage, >
> since
> it does not contain the trademark. Then again, neither does the
> abbreviation. But I'm not sure I'd dare make the book title be
> "Apache Manifold Connectors Framework in Action". It would >
probably
> need to be "Apache ManifoldCF in Action", or just "ManifoldCF in
> Action".
>
> Grant, you wrote a book. What do you think? Which title
should > be
> > >
> used?
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Jack Krupansky
> <jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
>> -1 for me. Standing alone it's an okay name, but trying to >>
actually
>> >> use it
>> is a pain (and we might as well call it MCF). But I'll
certainly >> go
>> >> along
>> with the majority.
>>
>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Karl Wright" <daddy...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 7:25 PM
>> To: <connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Rename Apache Connectors Framework to >>
>> ManifoldCF
>>
>>> Ok, I just want an up-or-down vote on ManifoldCF at this
>>> point.
>>> >>> +1
>>> >>> from
>>> me.
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Mark Miller >>>
>>> <markrmil...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 9/28/10 7:10 PM, Jack Krupansky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Fair enough. I could live with any of the other choices, but
>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> having this
>>>>> "CF" suffix really messes a lot of stuff up and is less
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> practical
>>>>> >>>>> than
>>>>> any of the other names. Basically, it means we may end up
>>>>> having
>>>>> >>>>> to use
>>>>> "MCF" as the shorthand name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wait... stop the presses... I just realized that
>>>>> "ManifoldCF"
>>>>> >>>>> violates
>>>>> selection rule #5:
>>>>>
>>>>> (5) No more than 4 syllables
>>>>>
>>>>> Man-I-fold-C-F (or is in Ma-ni-fold-C-F.)
>>>>>
>>>>> That's five syllables.
>>>>
>>>> ManifoldCF was already in the running. And its obvious that
>>>> >>>>
>>>> having
>>>> >>>> too
>>>> many syllables is not a problem - it was the second most
>>>> voted
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> name -
>>>> for the *second* time at least (who can track all these
votes).
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And, technically, I would say that it at least half
violates >>>>> the
>>>>> >>>>> spirit
>>>>> of rule #1:
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) It's a single word
>>>>>
>>>>> It is a single word plus this extra "CF" acronym thing.
>>>>
>>>> That's a stretch that the rational part of my brain is
going to
>>>> >>>> ignore.
>>>> This is no argument.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, next candidate on the list was... Manicon, 19
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless it has legal problems, it fits our requirements.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, lets vote again. For some reason ManifoldCF will stop
>>>> >>>>
>>>> topping
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> list why? Everyone will come to their senses? Some of us
are so
>>>> >>>> sick of
>>>> this name thing we won't vote, and if your lucky those will
>>>> be
>>>> >>>> the
>>>> ManifoldCF supporters? I mean come on...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Karl Wright" <daddy...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:52 PM
>>>>> To: <connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Rename Apache Connectors Framework to
>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> ManifoldCF
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jack,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's one of the main purposes of having everyone list
>>>>>> choices
>>>>>> >>>>>> by
>>>>>> priority. If one doesn't work, there are others you can
use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want to open that vote again unless the community
>>>>>> >>>>>> decides
>>>>>> >>>>>> that
>>>>>> the list of candidate names was simply not rich enough to
>>>>>> >>>>>> furnish
>>>>>> >>>>>> a
>>>>>> good choice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Jack Krupansky
>>>>>> <jack.krupan...@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or Nocon or Noman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know people are tired of voting, but I think we should
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> re-vote for
>>>>>>> the revised candidate list with Connex removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Jack Krupansky
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Mark Miller" <markrmil...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 6:43 PM
>>>>>>> To: <connectors-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Rename Apache Connectors Framework to
>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ManifoldCF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hmmm...I think I'm all voted out. Can we just call it
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> nothing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/28/10 6:40 PM, Karl Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vote +1 to rename Apache Connectors Framework to Apache
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ManifoldCF.
>>>>>>>>> Vote -1 to keep the project name of Connectors
Framework, >>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> retain
>>>>>>>>> Connex, if that wins its vote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This vote also expires end of day on Friday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Note: "Manifold" is a trademark for a GIS software
>>>>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>>> I agree with Grant that ManifoldCF appearing under the
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> label
>>>>>>>>> should be safe to be used. But you should recognize
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> vote
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> not merely a referendum on the name itself, but also
on >>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> suitability of the name in a legal context.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
