-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 w9ya wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2003 04:50 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: >
>>So packages on a CD don't count? Again, I do agree that users should be >>able to see what software is installed, but >> >>-kpackage does do this, as does gnorpm (if it will currently build or work >>with rpm-4.2) > > > The *point* was, that new users should/might want to have one gui based > utility do this. Or at least that was my point. One program for the user to > run, not several. > (Hint, I am not disagreeing with you on this point, read the paragraph above the one you are replying to). > >>-The majority of software a user is going to use, they should be able to >>find quite quickly > > > Some yes, some no. That was the basis we were talking about. > Maybe the real problem is people assuming that Mandrake is as bad as otehr distros that don't install a CD-writing app when a CD-writer is found. > >>-You did claim windows was point-and-click-easy, so why does my girlfriend >>install software easily under Mandrake, but not under Windows? There is no >>global catalog of available software on Windows in any case. > > > One example. Again the *point* was to consider making it one program. Not in the context of this paragraph, which was in response to your claims that software installation is trivial under Windows. I lost about 50MB of important data since my previous backup, to a setup.exe which on uninstall took all the files in the same folder with it, and the person who installed it had kindly installed it on the root of my D: drive, which contained all my data. > One that > can both scan for installed and not installed programs. On this I thought we > agreed several posts ago. Has that changed ? > No. > Well now I am confused, or do you like to "argue" both sides of the "coin" ? You made some statements which I disagreed with, but you don't seem to notice that I don't disagree with your main point. In summary - -the fact that some people here find urpmi more convenient doens't mean we think newbies should use it, but it means we don't use rpmdrake much - -Windows isn't much better (it doesn't show me alternative media players like winamp when I click any "Add/remove programs" menu. Installing softare from the network is possible if you have an Active Directory domain, but each piece of software (that doesn't support MSI files) needs to be specially prepared for this. (BTW, this is why I think urpmi should have LDAP support ...). Software you uninstall sometimes doesn't get removed from the list of installed software. Software installation and uninstallation can be unpredictable. Not all software installs itself into the list of installed software (yes, even ones where you run a real setup.exe). - -It would be nice if by default rpmdrake would show software that is installed. IMHO, there should be an options dialog, which has things like "show installed software in searches". Is there any reason why installed software can not be under a seperate branch of the tree view? Regards, Buchan - -- |--------------Another happy Mandrake Club member--------------| Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+8sM7rJK6UGDSBKcRAu0kAKCf5J2MiCB3b5qjLVLtb8AwAwmwHwCfdhrR m7r6KxRG+2RXDFxSLLC+20I= =BsQV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ****************************************************************** Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. ******************************************************************
