On 7/24/01 1:38 PM, "Eaon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The big problem I see here is
> that user applications in Linux are being tied to the OS version (holy cow,
> does that sound like what I think it sounds like?)

It does exactly, and you are right that this goes beyond Mandrake - your
poinst of being able to use older stuff on newer M$ stuff, and vice versa
are well made, and it's that which is one of the points standing I the wau
of wide-spread adoption of Linux by the mainstream.

Of course, arrogant responses of "You'll just have to download and
recompile" only serve to drive people faster to the safety and stability of
Microsoft environments...

Instead of such elitists attitudes, addressing the issue and trying to find
an equitable solution would be best. To be honest urpmi is a step in the
right direction, but it needs to be made MUCH more user-friendly on the
command-line.

On the desktop, it should be possible to click on 'apache' and have rpminst
select and download all dependencies (which it does). In fact, current;y
that is what it does (if you have cooker selected) - Of course, currently in
the case of Apache, it downloads 3 gzillion deps, but since it lacks
php-Mysql, the system ends up unusable nevertheless, and there is no way to
backgrade because of all the deps installed.

Not an ideal system, but hopefully evolving in that direction - and a far
better answer than 'roll your own'.

> Yes, this goes WAY beyond Mandrake, to every distro out there.  I share his
> frustration.  How can we on one hand decry M$ for tying products to their OS
> while on the other hand tying applications to certain versions of a distro
> due to dependencies?  Doesn't M$ have dependencies?

Amen!

"Solutions, not Attitude"

Harry


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