> Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave.  When did this become about what I do for
> a living?  And is it your common resort to tell people who question the
> way things are done "If your not a developer then fuck off"?  But if we
> must, then I fill you in on a little secret - I'm a Java developer.  All
> day, every day.  Do I know what dll hell is?  You bet I do.  Does it
> often affect me?  No, because I use a smarter system than that.
> Besides, if Microsoft is so bad, Mr Anti-Microsoft, then how is it
> they're smart enough to make it "look easier than it really is" and
> Linux developers aren't?
>

If you take a look at the history of linux and the short amount of time it
has been around they are leaps and bounds ahead of Microsofts developement.
No one said that you had to be a developer to use the OS or get a lot out of
it. If Microsoft developers were so savvy I doubt I would have about 30
emails in my bugtraq folder about a worm that threatened to slow down the
entire internet overnight. Also, when was the last time you had to PAY to
upgrade your mandrake distribution to an entirely new OS? Last I checked it
was something like $300 US to buy Windows 2000 Professional...

> > Now, there is certainly validity to what you are saying. The Linux
> > Standards Base tries to help here, but I certainly don't envision a day
> > when RedHat and Mandrake packages would be interchangable. It might be
> > nice, but I just don't see how it would work. You said you disagree with
> > me here, but judging from what you said above, you sound like you feel
> > the same way as I do.
> >
> Again I ask the "when question": When did this become about
> interchangability between RedHat and Mandrake.  All the original message
> was about was getting continued app developement for Mandrake 7.2 after
> 8.0 came out.  We're talking about interchangability between two
> versions of the same product from the same company, not between two
> different distros.  Stick to the plot.
>
How hard is it to pop in the 8.0 CD and click upgrade? I've had several of
my less computer savvy friends try it and only had a few minor problems that
were easily solved. If you think Microsoft is on a mission to have older
versions supported you should read into their .NET policy... Once again I
have to stress that a user can tar -xvzf source.tar.gz, ./configure, make,
make install and have a custom built application built for their specific
configuration. I'm sure if you thought this was too difficult for the
average user someone could write a contrib program that would untar,
configure, and make an app from a tarball fairly easily. Working with
windows and linux both on  a daily basis I wouldn't give up the advances in
linux software for the .dll scheme windows has for anything. Anyone that
disagrees hasn't spent hours in the registry trying to figure out why
something doesn't work. =)

Another 2 cents.. (aren't we WAY off topic of cooker by now... lol )
-Tim


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