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I concur with this sentiment. My Acer Extensa laptop also hangs when trying to come back from a resume of any kind and when the mains power is switched off. However, I still think there is a broader issue here - why are apmd and swapper throwing, presumably untrapped, NULL pointer exceptions that bring down the entire machine ? Owen A simple kernel oops logged some where would be sufficient ;-) or perhaps a java or C# kernel to trap exceptions properly ! LOL !! ;-) On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 07:28, SI Reasoning wrote: > > > --- Randy Welch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Teemu Torma wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 21 February 2002 02:04, SI Reasoning > > wrote: > > > > > >>The kernel in 8.1 did not have APIC enabled. > > >> > > > > > > I am also using a Dell laptop. It seems that any > > BIOS event locks the laptop > > > completely, whether it is unplug the power cord or > > BIOS display timeout or > > > manual display blanking. Something like 2.4.13 > > works, which I am using right > > > now, but all 2.4.17 and after kernels are > > completely unusable. > > > > > > > > > What is it with Dells and others laptops? > > > > ThinkPads ( or at least the A2X series ) seem to > > resist any > > attempts by the kernel to enable it: > > > > syslog:Feb 19 21:13:10 randyspc kernel: Local APIC > > disabled > > y BIOS -- reenabling. > > syslog:Feb 19 21:13:10 randyspc kernel: Could not > > enable APIC! > > > > > > > > This issue reminds me of the 8.0 trackpoint mouse > > issue on > > the thinkpads. ( it was inoperative... ) > > > > Why not build a 'laptop' kernel with APIC turned > > off? > > Especially with the changes done to make those folks > > with > > r128 based laptops. > > > > -randy > > I couldn't agree more. It would be a lighter kernel to > boot since you could disable alot of options that are > just not used on a laptop (such as raid, ham radio, > most pci/isa network cards, etc) > > It would also lighten the load on the standard kernel > since you could remove laptop related issues such as > pcmcia, etc. > > I think it is an obvious choice and Mandrake could > brag about being the only Distro that caters to > laptops! > > > ===== > SI Reasoning > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > A requirement of creativity is that it contributes to change. Creativity keeps > the creator alive. > > -FRANK HERBERT, unpublished notes > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > THIS E-MAIL MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS CONFIDENTIAL AND/OR LEGALLY PRIVILEGED. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT, PLEASE DO NOT READ IT, DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY AND INFORM CAMBRIDGE POSITIONING SYSTEMS LIMITED BY TELEPHONING +44 (0)1223 326900. This Email has been checked for viruses but it is your responsibility to conduct your own virus checks on all parts of it. Cambridge Positioning Systems Limited, 62-64 Hills Road, Cambridge, CB2 1LA, is registered in England under company number 2808344. ***************************************************************************
