On 25. máj 2002 o 19:54, Ben Reser wrote: > On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 01:18:04AM +0200, Tibor Pittich wrote: > > no, i don't have two choices. if i want use only binaries and don't want > > rebuild telnet or ftp package, i _must_ have installed kerberos libs > > too. i know, this is offtopic on this thread, but how many percent users > > use kerberos authentication ? if you can reply to this, please change > > topic.
> *sigh* first off you're not understanding me. Mandrake has two choices. > Ship a kerberose telnet client or don't ship a kerberose enabled telnet > client. If they do it has to be compiled with the kerberose libraries. ok, i confess, i abuse this thread to talking about not very much contiguous "problem" with kerberized libs. sorry. i perfecly understand, that binary telnet, and ftp is dymanically compiled with kerberos libs, and this _must_ Required theirs. but, if i can be constitute, here can't be chance make nonkerberized telnet and ftp clients which might be in conflicts with todays clients? > > is this anywhere strictly defined as it is interpreting by you? > > i read mdk-rpm howto and maximum-rpm doc, but there is no allusion that > > this field is dedicated to telling which package is _mandatory_. > Huh? The Mandrake RPM Howto says of Requires: > "This line was added because one of the programs included in the package > is a python script. It then needs python to be executed. You can put > optional minimum (or equal) version, for example: Requires: python >= > 1.5.1" > While this is an example. The word *NEEDS* is in the sentence. > > And the Maximum RPM Document says of the Requires tag: > "The requires tag is used to alert RPM to the fact that the package > needs to have certain capabilities available in order to operate > properly. " > *NEEDS* *OPERATE PROPERLY* > Not *SHOULD* or *MAKES IT WORK BETTER* ok, second example i don't read exactness. here is defined: if complette package needs for fully functionality some other package, use Requires tag. ok. but if we apply first cite literal: "some packages, if include any script which requires interpreter, use Require", here is question. why package which contain docbook, tex, sgml or another formated documentation is not Require interpreter? i know, it is another bad example;) > > fundamentally question is: where is authoritative description about > > "Requires" and what tells about it. if it exists and you have right in > > your interpretation, and my lobbing about "Requires" for spamassassin and > > razor-agent , please sorry for my mail and don't throb my head :) i was > > thinking, that this forum is right place for discusion about this. > You pointed out two pieces of documentation which clearly explain what > requires means and are supportive of my opinion. maybe clearly for you, but still not for me. what do you think about "documentation example" ? > Really it seems to me that you don't understand the nature of library > dependencies in programs written in Perl or C. Which would imply that > you probably shouldn't be commenting on such matters. i repeat. i perfectly understand nature of library dependencies in programs written in perl or c language and i don't discuss about this, and your diatribe against me is unnecessary. our discussion is about meaning of Requires tag in spamassassin package, and my enhancement about kerberized clients and libraries. i'm awake, that my first post is only _lobing_ for conservation razor-agents requirisity for spamassassin and i think that i argue good (default config (5 points), guarantee 99.94% hit) which result for me, that spamassassin require razor for promise application functionality, not binary funcionality (i repeat, and again sorry, i'm abuse this thread for discusion about kerberized network clients). that's all from me, and i abjure next reply :) and sorry for this small "flamewar". -- Linux 2.4.18-16mdk Mandrake Linux release 8.3 (Cooker) for i586 2:14pm up 4 days, 2:54, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
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