On Sat, Feb 22, 2003 at 02:19:09PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Le Samedi 22 F�vrier 2003 13:04, Murray J. Root a �crit : > > > > Everybody, please give up insisting on this point. The KDE dependency > > > > has been argued here for many times in cooker. People come and go, > > > > argueing over and over on this topic, without achieving anything. If > > > > the time is spent on doing other things, cooker could have become a > > > > little better. So please spend your energy on something you CAN do, and > > > > kill this thread. Is it OK for everybody? > > > > > > No, I don't have the room for kdebase. It's too much wasted space. > > > > You're beating a dead horse. These people have no clue what "requires" > > means and apply it to whatever whim they have the day they make a package. > > Let it drop - you can't win against people who won't read your messages. > Is it possible to have a discussion about KDE without people insulting or > ignoring each others ? So far what has been achieved is a totally absurd > situation where cooker community complains endlessly, while Mdk KDE team > prefers to work underground with meaningless changelog to avoid answering any > questions... Where is collaborative work there ? > > For KDE team defense, i'd like to remember than complaining is easy, while > fixing is much harder. And sofar, i've not seen much patches submitted to > them, far less patches rejected. My libqt3 spec patch for instance has been > accepted without discussion. So complaining people, please provide patches. > And if they ever get refused, there is still place in PLF for alternative KDE > packages.
The problem is not a broken KDE that requires patching. It is the unnecessary addition of "requirements" that are not really "required". This has been a problem in Mandrake for a long time. That is why I said to quit beating the horse - the Mandrake team disagrees with using "requires" the same way an English speaker uses it and it is quite clear that no amount of messages to the list is going to get them to change it. So live with the bloat or force nodeps. -- Murray J. Root
