On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 05:33, Buchan Milne wrote:
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> James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 07:17, Buchan Milne wrote:
> >
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> >>Lissimore wrote:
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> >>
> >>>  Yes more bugs are being reported. But also keep in mind the bugs
> >>
> >>that were
> >>
> >>>reported, and nothing done about them. So they get reported
> >>>again...and...again...and again.
> >>
> >>People should *search* bugzilla before reporting again ...
> >>
> >>
> >>>(  e.g.  The SMP kernel installer bug was reported back in beta1  (Bug
> >>
> >>1553)
> >>
> >>>then again (bug 1823), then again (bug 2101), and then again (bug
> 2218). )
> >>
> >>So, why did the reporters not search first?
> >>
> >>
> >>>  So it's not a simple mater of people crawling out of the woodwork...
> >>
> >>some
> >>
> >>>bloody bugs get reported, and then not worked on for a long time (or even
> >>>declared as verified on bugzilla).
> >>>
> >>
> >>Instead of making a duplicate bug, users should *vote for* or *confirm*
> >>the existing entries!
> >
> >
> > Since when are bugs and bug shooting a popularity contest?
> 
> There is a difference between a bug, and a bug report. Bug reports can
> be, and often are incorrect.
> 
>   I work hand
> > in glove daily with both our QA division and our Consumer Support
> > Divisions.  Bug is Bug.... When it comes in the door We evaluate them
> > immediately.  They get moved from confirmed to assigned within 24 hours
> > (and I have the nag in Bugzilla set to start e-mailing the heck out of
> > personnel if needed.) Yes I know large numbers of bugs get reported ...
> > Yes I know it's a hassle.  Yes I get developers yelling "I can't do
> > anything else but fix bugs" to which I generally reply "Yes?"  And yes
> > 90% of the "bugs" we get hit with are actually problems with the distro
> > not our product, and mostly do to changes to improve things that break
> > what the consumer is used to.  Fine ... that's part of doing business.
> > But let me ask you this.... Do you honestly think one of the largest
> > firms in the industry (who is now using our product) would like it if we
> > told them "We'll fix your bug when we get enough votes."..... *sigh*
> 
> All your software is open source, and you provide it all for free to
> your customers?

Both... it' revolves around a MySQL style system... 
> 
> Remember that the proprietary model and open-source model differ
> slightly. In the proprietary model, someone is paying you to read and
> validate bug reports ... in the open source model, if you aren't paying,
> and you want your bug fixed, you need to ensure it can be validated
> easily, or ensure that someone does it for you.

Actually no one is paying me right now... the hassles of a startup. 
Problem here is you can't vote.  I used up my vote a while back and
although I could confirm a number of bugs... I can't ...no vote left.
> 
> Regards,
> Buchan
> 
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