I agree Jim. At the risk of sounding naive, while it is of course important to be critical, advocate for transparency, and take a stand when needed, alienating LEAs who have legitatent challenges and concerns won't do us any good. Of course, that may be slightly off-topic given the initial response by Alexander, and I do understand his criticism.
Best, -Michael On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Jim Reid <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 29 Mar 2018, at 10:45, Alex Smirnoff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It is like they need us, not vice versa, right? > > First, let’s stop this “us” and “them” attitude. It’s wrong and unhelpful. > > Law enforcement, regulators and so on are members of the RIPE community. > We have to work with these sectors, just like we engage with IXPs, ISPs, > privacy activists and so on. > > An adversarial relationship with the authorities will not be in the best > interests of anyone. That doesn’t mean “we” must always agree with “them”. > It does mean at a minimum that there are channels for discussion and mutual > understanding and that these work well. It looks to me that the recent > workshop was a welcome step in that direction. > > And FWIW we need “them” just as much as they need “us”. We’re all > passengers on the same Internet bus and we have a common interest in making > sure the wheels don’t come off. > > >
