Thank you so much Elwyn! More than I could have hoped for!
I looked forward to following up on your suggestions. We are planning a visit
to the area in September.
Gratefully,
Maureen
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From: Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList <[email protected]>
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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: McCann/McCannon/McCarron/McCarl/Kearnan
Thanks for the compliments. We try to please.
Elwyn
On Sunday, 9 April 2023, 21:45:09 BST, [email protected]
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Yes, Elwyn. You are amazing. Another fan.
Tom ChambersFlorida / Wisconsin
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On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:35 PM, Valerie Stewart via CoTyroneList
<[email protected]> wrote:
Elwyn,YOU are AMAZING!!!!Your fan,
Valerie StewartCalifornia
On Sun, Apr 9, 2023, 11:43 AM Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList
<[email protected]> wrote:
Maureen, Griffiths Valuation 1859 lists Thomas Donaldson in Tullynure. He had
plot 55 which was a 15 acre farm which he shared with James Donaldson.
https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml This looks to be
Thomas’s death in 1891, aged 84. His wife had died before that.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06084/4735831.pdf
Possible deaths for Thomas’s wife are Nancy 1866 aged 64, Catherine 1864 aged
54, Ally 1865 aged 46. Those deaths are not viewable free and if you want to
see the details you need to pay £2.50 a time on the GRONI site. James Donaldson
died in 1886 aged 78. He was a bachelor. He was Thomas’s brother. Interestingly
the informant for the death was a Charles McCann of Caneese. Perhaps a relation
of Thomas McCann who married Hannah?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06236/4785205.pdf
From PRONI wills site: Probate abstract. Letters of Administration of the
personal estate of James Donaldson late of Tullynure County Londonderry Farmer
who died 10 November 1886 at same place were granted at Londonderry to Thomas
Donaldson of Tullynure Farmer the Brother. 1831 census of Tullynure lists a
Robert Donaldson whose family consisted of 3 males and 7 females. All Church of
Ireland. At a guess, Robert may be Thomas & James father.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Loughinsholin/Lissane/Tullynine/61/
No Donaldsons in Tullynure by the 1901 census. 1901 census of Caneese lists a
Charles McCann, aged 70, farming. Family was Roman Catholic. So that’s probably
the Charles who was the informant for James’ death.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Lisson_Upper/Canuse/1533836/
In 1831 there was a John McCann in Caneese. A total of 4 males, 4 females, all
RC. 2 families living under the one roof:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Loughinsholin/Lissane/Caneese/12/
1827 Tithe applotment records list 2 Donaldson and 1 McCanny family farming in
Caneese: Tithe Applotment Books 1823-1838: Lissan Parish, county Tyrone
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Tithe Applotment Books 1823-1838: Lissan Parish, county Tyrone
Tithe Applotment Books in county Tyrone. Lissan Parish records online. County
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Caneese and Tullynure share a common boundary so the McCann and Donaldson
families lived very close to each other. Just a few hundred yards between the
two properties. Lissan RC baptism & marriage records are complete from 1839
onwards. Between 1822 and 1838, some fragments have survived. So the Donaldsons
from Tullynure appear to have been Church of Ireland, not Presbyterian and the
McCanns/McCarrons appear to have been Roman Catholic. Yet you say the family
was Presbyterian in the US. Either they switched lanes somewhere or perhaps
it’s not the right family. Hope the above helps a little. Elwyn
On Sunday, 9 April 2023, 04:37:59 BST, Maureen Kearnan via CoTyroneList
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hello!
I am so happy to have found this site!
I am trying to push back on my husband's 2 x great-grandfather.
Thomas Kearnan (1840 - 1884) is buried in Port Byron, NY USA. According to US
Census records, Thomas was born in Ireland
He was married to Hannah Donaldson (1840 - 1912) who was born in Ireland. The
family in NY were Presbyterian so we suspect they were from the North.
I have a marriage record of a Hannah Donaldson and a Thomas McCann (?) on
February 23, 1860 from Tullynane at the Parish Church at the Parish of Lissan.
Thomas's father was listed as William McCann. Hannah's father was listed as
Thomas Donaldson.
A Thomas and Hannah McCarron (McCannon?) traveled to NY via Liverpool on the
Nottebahm arriving in 1863. It looks like they had a daughter, Sarah, born on
the ship who died before they docked.
I can find no records connecting Thomas and Hannah on the ship to the Thomas
and Hannah who ended up in Port Byron, NY.
I do have a Civil War Pension card in which Hannah Kearnan is claiming the
pension of "Thomas McCarl alias Thomas Kearnan" which makes me think that
somewhere along the way Thomas changed his last name.
Any leads or insights would be appreciated. Thank you!
Maureen Kearnan=================================
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