Yes, I am interested in suggestions as well.

How do I contact Elwyn, please?

Susan

On 2023-04-09 4:48 p.m., Valerie Stewart via CoTyroneList wrote:
James,
Are we permitted to ask for lodging/restaurant recommendations...if we travel to Ireland? If Maureen goes in September, Elwyn, who lives in Antrim, might have ideas.  When we went last September, I might have made different arrangements.  But the closest location (North/East) we got to was lodgings around Raphoe/Stranalor- otherwise we were near Donegal town and Sligo.
Just thought I'd ask.
All the best!
Valerie

On Sun, Apr 9, 2023, 2:14 PM Maureen Kearnan <[email protected]> wrote:

    Thank you so much Elwyn!  More than I could have hoped for!

    I looked forward to following up on your suggestions. We are
    planning a visit to the area in September.

    Gratefully,

    Maureen


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList
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    To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
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    Cc: Valerie Stewart <[email protected]>; Elwyn Soutter
    <[email protected]>
    Sent: Sun, Apr 9, 2023 4:53 pm
    Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re:
    McCann/McCannon/McCarron/McCarl/Kearnan

    Thanks for the compliments. We try to please.

    Elwyn

    On Sunday, 9 April 2023, 21:45:09 BST, [email protected]
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    Yes, Elwyn.  You are amazing.
    Another fan.

    Tom Chambers
    Florida / Wisconsin

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:35 PM, Valerie Stewart via CoTyroneList
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    
    Elwyn,
    YOU are AMAZING!!!!
    Your fan,

    Valerie Stewart
    California

    On Sun, Apr 9, 2023, 11:43 AM Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList
    <[email protected]> wrote:

        Maureen,
        Griffiths Valuation 1859 lists Thomas Donaldson in Tullynure.
        He had plot 55 which was a 15 acre farm which he shared with
        James Donaldson.
        https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml
        This looks to be Thomas’s death in 1891, aged 84. His wife
        had died before that.
        
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06084/4735831.pdf
        Possible deaths for Thomas’s wife are Nancy 1866 aged 64,
        Catherine 1864 aged 54, Ally 1865 aged 46.  Those deaths are
        not viewable free and if you want to see the details you need
        to pay £2.50 a time on the GRONI site.
        James Donaldson died in 1886 aged 78. He was a bachelor. He
        was Thomas’s brother. Interestingly the informant for the
        death was a Charles McCann of Caneese. Perhaps a relation of
        Thomas McCann who married Hannah?
        
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06236/4785205.pdf
        From PRONI wills site:
        Probate abstract. Letters of Administration of the personal
        estate of James Donaldson late of Tullynure County
        Londonderry Farmer who died 10 November 1886 at same place
        were granted at Londonderry to Thomas Donaldson of Tullynure
        Farmer the Brother.
        1831 census of Tullynure lists a Robert Donaldson whose
        family consisted of 3 males and 7 females. All Church of
        Ireland. At a guess, Robert may be Thomas & James father.
        
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Loughinsholin/Lissane/Tullynine/61/
        No Donaldsons in Tullynure by the 1901 census.
        1901 census of Caneese lists a Charles McCann, aged 70,
        farming. Family was Roman Catholic. So that’s probably the
        Charles who was the informant for  James’ death.
        
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Lisson_Upper/Canuse/1533836/
        In 1831 there was a John McCann in Caneese. A total of 4
        males, 4 females, all RC. 2 families living under the one roof:
        
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Loughinsholin/Lissane/Caneese/12/
        1827 Tithe applotment records list 2 Donaldson and 1 McCanny
        family farming in Caneese:
        Tithe Applotment Books 1823-1838: Lissan Parish, county
        Tyrone
        
<http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/tyrone/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-lissan.php>


                


            Tithe Applotment Books 1823-1838: Lissan Parish, county
            Tyrone

        Tithe Applotment Books in county Tyrone. Lissan Parish
        records online. County Tyrone genealogy and Tyrone Ancestry

        
<http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/tyrone/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-lissan.php>


        Caneese and Tullynure share a common boundary so the McCann
        and Donaldson families lived very close to each other.  Just
        a few hundred yards between the two properties.
        Lissan RC baptism & marriage records are complete from 1839
        onwards. Between 1822 and 1838, some fragments have survived.
        So the Donaldsons from Tullynure appear to have been Church
        of Ireland, not Presbyterian and the McCanns/McCarrons appear
        to have been Roman Catholic.  Yet you say the family was
        Presbyterian in the US. Either they switched lanes somewhere
        or perhaps it’s not the right family.
        Hope the above helps a little.
        Elwyn





        On Sunday, 9 April 2023, 04:37:59 BST, Maureen Kearnan via
        CoTyroneList <[email protected]> wrote:


        Hello!

        I am so happy to have found this site!

        I am trying to push back on my husband's 2 x great-grandfather.

        Thomas Kearnan (1840 - 1884) is buried in Port Byron, NY USA.
        According to US Census records, Thomas was born in Ireland

        He was married to Hannah Donaldson (1840 - 1912) who was born
        in Ireland. The family in NY were Presbyterian so we suspect
        they were from the North.

        I have a marriage record of a Hannah Donaldson and a Thomas
        McCann (?) on February 23, 1860 from Tullynane at the Parish
        Church at the Parish of Lissan.

        Thomas's father was listed as William McCann. Hannah's father
        was listed as Thomas Donaldson.

        A Thomas and Hannah McCarron (McCannon?) traveled to NY via
        Liverpool on the Nottebahm arriving in 1863.  It looks like
        they had a daughter, Sarah, born on the ship who died before
        they docked.

        I can find no records connecting Thomas and Hannah on the
        ship to the Thomas and Hannah who ended up in Port Byron, NY.

        I do have a Civil War Pension card in which Hannah Kearnan is
        claiming the pension of "Thomas McCarl alias Thomas Kearnan"
        which makes me think that somewhere along the way Thomas
        changed his last name.

        Any leads or insights would be appreciated. Thank you!

        Maureen Kearnan
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