James, Are we permitted to ask for lodging/restaurant recommendations...if we travel to Ireland? If Maureen goes in September, Elwyn, who lives in Antrim, might have ideas. When we went last September, I might have made different arrangements. But the closest location (North/East) we got to was lodgings around Raphoe/Stranalor- otherwise we were near Donegal town and Sligo. Just thought I'd ask. All the best! Valerie
On Sun, Apr 9, 2023, 2:14 PM Maureen Kearnan <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you so much Elwyn! More than I could have hoped for! > > I looked forward to following up on your suggestions. We are planning a > visit to the area in September. > > Gratefully, > > Maureen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList < > [email protected]> > To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List < > [email protected]>; [email protected] < > [email protected]> > Cc: Valerie Stewart <[email protected]>; Elwyn Soutter < > [email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Apr 9, 2023 4:53 pm > Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Re: McCann/McCannon/McCarron/McCarl/Kearnan > > Thanks for the compliments. We try to please. > > Elwyn > > On Sunday, 9 April 2023, 21:45:09 BST, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Yes, Elwyn. You are amazing. > Another fan. > > Tom Chambers > Florida / Wisconsin > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 9, 2023, at 4:35 PM, Valerie Stewart via CoTyroneList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Elwyn, > YOU are AMAZING!!!! > Your fan, > > Valerie Stewart > California > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2023, 11:43 AM Elwyn Soutter via CoTyroneList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Maureen, > > Griffiths Valuation 1859 lists Thomas Donaldson in Tullynure. He had plot > 55 which was a 15 acre farm which he shared with James Donaldson. > > https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml > > This looks to be Thomas’s death in 1891, aged 84. His wife had died before > that. > > > https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1891/06084/4735831.pdf > > Possible deaths for Thomas’s wife are Nancy 1866 aged 64, Catherine 1864 > aged 54, Ally 1865 aged 46. Those deaths are not viewable free and if you > want to see the details you need to pay £2.50 a time on the GRONI site. > > James Donaldson died in 1886 aged 78. He was a bachelor. He was Thomas’s > brother. Interestingly the informant for the death was a Charles McCann of > Caneese. Perhaps a relation of Thomas McCann who married Hannah? > > > https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06236/4785205.pdf > > From PRONI wills site: > > Probate abstract. Letters of Administration of the personal estate of > James Donaldson late of Tullynure County Londonderry Farmer who died 10 > November 1886 at same place were granted at Londonderry to Thomas Donaldson > of Tullynure Farmer the Brother. > > 1831 census of Tullynure lists a Robert Donaldson whose family consisted > of 3 males and 7 females. All Church of Ireland. At a guess, Robert may be > Thomas & James father. > > > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Loughinsholin/Lissane/Tullynine/61/ > > No Donaldsons in Tullynure by the 1901 census. > > 1901 census of Caneese lists a Charles McCann, aged 70, farming. Family > was Roman Catholic. So that’s probably the Charles who was the informant > for James’ death. > > > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Lisson_Upper/Canuse/1533836/ > > In 1831 there was a John McCann in Caneese. A total of 4 males, 4 females, > all RC. 2 families living under the one roof: > > > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Loughinsholin/Lissane/Caneese/12/ > > 1827 Tithe applotment records list 2 Donaldson and 1 McCanny family > farming in Caneese: > > Tithe Applotment Books 1823-1838: Lissan Parish, county Tyrone > <http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/tyrone/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-lissan.php> > > Tithe Applotment Books 1823-1838: Lissan Parish, county Tyrone > Tithe Applotment Books in county Tyrone. Lissan Parish records online. > County Tyrone genealogy and Tyrone Ancestry > > <http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/tyrone/tithe-applotment-books/parish-of-lissan.php> > > > > Caneese and Tullynure share a common boundary so the McCann and Donaldson > families lived very close to each other. Just a few hundred yards between > the two properties. > > Lissan RC baptism & marriage records are complete from 1839 onwards. > Between 1822 and 1838, some fragments have survived. > > So the Donaldsons from Tullynure appear to have been Church of Ireland, > not Presbyterian and the McCanns/McCarrons appear to have been Roman > Catholic. Yet you say the family was Presbyterian in the US. Either they > switched lanes somewhere or perhaps it’s not the right family. > > Hope the above helps a little. > > > Elwyn > > > > > > On Sunday, 9 April 2023, 04:37:59 BST, Maureen Kearnan via CoTyroneList < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello! > > I am so happy to have found this site! > > I am trying to push back on my husband's 2 x great-grandfather. > > Thomas Kearnan (1840 - 1884) is buried in Port Byron, NY USA. According > to US Census records, Thomas was born in Ireland > > He was married to Hannah Donaldson (1840 - 1912) who was born in Ireland. > The family in NY were Presbyterian so we suspect they were from the North. > > I have a marriage record of a Hannah Donaldson and a Thomas McCann (?) on > February 23, 1860 from Tullynane at the Parish Church at the Parish of > Lissan. > > Thomas's father was listed as William McCann. Hannah's father was listed > as Thomas Donaldson. > > A Thomas and Hannah McCarron (McCannon?) traveled to NY via Liverpool on > the Nottebahm arriving in 1863. It looks like they had a daughter, Sarah, > born on the ship who died before they docked. > > I can find no records connecting Thomas and Hannah on the ship to the > Thomas and Hannah who ended up in Port Byron, NY. > > I do have a Civil War Pension card in which Hannah Kearnan is claiming the > pension of "Thomas McCarl alias Thomas Kearnan" which makes me think that > somewhere along the way Thomas changed his last name. > > Any leads or insights would be appreciated. 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