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At 03:51 PM 4/1/02 -0500, James Lloyd wrote:
>Greg,I thought I was the only one that did that on hot humid days with
>a large passenger.That vsi comes in real handy.

I do it even solo (I'm 128# today) in '387, which is a relative
rocket-ship
as Koops go. (With just me aboard it still has 300FPM climb left with
full fuel at 9500 feet on a standard day.)

I learned to do it on a mountain-flying checkout in a normally-aspirated
A36
Bonanza coming out of Granby, CO. As the CFI said: 'When God gives you
a gift, it's impolite not to take it. All in all, if you let a good
thermal 
do the job
for you,  you *will* get there quicker, even though your instinct is to 
point the
nose towards the next way point.'

Only problem is, I really suck at staying in them. They're so badly marked
:-)
And I never quite know if they petered out or if I just lost my way. Time
to
go get that sailplane rating, I guess.

A lot of times, when you come out of an airport around here, you'll see a
stack of raptors somewhere. If you can join them without hitting them,
you'll go up.

Greg

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