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Lets first look at the POSITIVE side of this. It is the FIRST time the FAA
as ever given any thought to a "Sport Pilot" catagory.  That is good.  Now
what we should do is ORGANIZE with others to get them to agree to some
changes.  The changes should include some well thought out things that we
feel are POSSIBLE goals to achieve and the FAA will accept. It is obvious
that they listen to AOPA and the EAA.  I feel that is where we should
direct
our dialog.  We will NOT MAKE IT if we single out our Coupes as a singular
airplane to be accepted by the FAA. 
I think the FAA might accept 1500 lbs. gross weight.  A bargaining point
could be that we accept their 2-seat limitation. This will allow all the
Luscome, T-Crafts, Cubs, Funks, Colts etc into the fold.  Remember, the
FAA
will NOT list the "Coupe" as an exception because the know it would open
pandora's box! Another good point is they are willing to discuss this with
us.
George Frebert 
Dover Delaware
  


On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 13:23:32 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any
advice in this forum.]----
>  Over the last several years on these lists we have heard many fine
stories
>  of what I think of as Sport Flying. Some involved a great local flight
>  landing just into a beautiful sunset or the grand saga of Lynn Nelsen
and
>  his trip all around the country. I will go so far as to say the Ercoupe
>  pilots for the vast majority are "Sport Pilots". That is to say we fly
for
>  the fun of it, the joy of it and we do not fly Coupes to try to make
money.
>  I am sure there is an exception or two but I feel that the vast
majority
of
>  us fit this model (I am sure I will hear about it from those who see
things
>  differently).
>  
>  So why am I covering the obvious here. Well the FAA is about to make a
new
>  class of pilots which they call "Sport Pilots" and they define what
>  aircraft they can fly. They call them "Light" aircraft and they must
meet
>  the following requirements:
>  
>  --   1232 lbs. gross weight
>  --   39 Knots stall speed
>  --   87 Knots "max cruise"
>  --   powered - single engine "normally aspirated
>  --   unpressurized
>  --   two occupants or less
>  
>  Well we miss out on gross weight by "18" pounds (415-C), we do not have
a
>  stall speed, most 75 or 85 hp. coupes will not do much over 87 knots
and
>  they will not with a good climb prop and we clearly meet the other
>  requirement.
>  
>  If there ever was a case where an airplane fit the intent of the
definition
>  it should be our beloved Coupes. It was designed to be a safe fun sport
>  plane and it has lived up to that design objective. So we have a great
>  "Sport Plane" being flown by a great bunch of "Sport Pilots" and the
FAA
>  for 18 pounds will call us something else and keep us jumping through
the
>  full "Private Pilots" drill including the Medical. Oh, the Medical, we
have
>  heard many stories about the long process and great expense endured by
some
>  on the list and in the end they get two or three months of flying
before
>  they run out and have to start the process again. Did I forget to
mention
>  the good part of being a "Sport Pilot"? Well you can take your choice
of
>  having a third class medical or you have to have a "valid US Drivers
>  License". I think most of us still have that.
>  
>  The FAA is planning to put out the NPRM (notice of proposed rule
making)
in
>  January 2001 with a 90 day comment period. Then they will hold a Public
>  Meeting at Sun N Fun 2001 and the final rule should be published and
>  delivered at Oshkosh 2001.
>  
>  As I see it this is an issue that the EOC and everyone on this list
should
>  have a real interest in. We, I think want it to happen even in its
current
>  form. I also think that we can with constructive input through our
leaders
>  perhaps get the 415-C included. Many of us would keep flying many more
>  years if this happened. I guess it would be good for the value of our
>  aircraft and it just might be the key to some kind of new production of
the
>  Coupe. That may be to much to hope for but it would sure be good for us
to
>  be able to be included. Champs, J-3 and a bunch of other similar period
>  aircraft will qualify. I hope we can put all of our differences aside
for
>  this one time and get a solid front to present our case to the FAA. It
can
>  be a strong case and we have some good people who can work the problem.
We
>  can get support from the EAA and AOPA and other similar groups. It will
>  take time and great effort from our leaders. We must all support them,
let
>  them know what we want and them be ready to help when asked to write
>  letters.
>  
>  I will look forward to hearing other views on this.
>  
>  More information can be found at
http://www.aerosports.org/sport_pilot,
>  _osh00.htm
>  
>  Have a great day.
>  
>  Best regards,
>  Vern Hendershott
>  1949   415-G   N94892
>  
>  
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