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At 11:58 AM 10/27/00 -0700, Larry wrote:
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>Anyway, 've had a hard time not flying it like all the other birds I've 
>flown, which is somewhat of an extended
>final.  The problem with a Coupe, is that you have to hold lots of power 
>if you have a long final.  If
>you don't, you sink like a rock.

I think maybe the problem is that you're just too slow. It doesn't sink 
that bad if you keep it
above 80, or even at 85 MPH all the way down. It sure feels better to me 
that way.

Now, to do that, power off, while flying a somewhat-standard pattern
(which 
you're sometimes forced
into by other traffic), you're going to have hold extra altitude = 
power  on downwind and base. My
descent setting abeam the numbers is 1600-1700 RPM, depending upon load. 
1200RPM on final is
enough to make the difference between sinking and what feels like a 
'normal' kind of Cessna glide.

>Nowadays, I start thinking about turning base about
>the time I pass the end of the runway while on down wind.  It's taken me 
>about 30 hours of flight time
>to get out of my old bad habits of thinking I could extend with elevator.

Sometimes, if there is a 152/172 in front of me and a duffer is making a 
pattern that goes East
to the Atlantic and North to Vermont, I'll just stay at pattern altitude 
until I turn final.  I have
to be longer on final than he is since he's going to dawdle down the 
glide-slope, and then
piddle around on the runway (now I know how Duke pilots feel) in any case.

Left to my own devices, I fly a pretty tight pattern, pretty much inside 
the airport boundaries, but
that gets hard to dictate at times.

If I chop the power abeam the numbers for a dead-stick, I can make a nice,

constant-radius turn
to the threshold and arrive there at 85-90MPH in good shape to bleed off 
the extra energy and
land with a good safety margin. The turn literally ends AT the threshold, 
so if you're one of those
guys who needs to go straight at a runway for 30 seconds to land on it, 
forget it. (You can land
IN that turn and the Ercoupe gear takes care of you just fine.)

Of course, at 85MPH, you've got a good distance to go in ground effect,
and 
I suspect that you're
better off holding 80-85 even though it looks like you'll be bit short, 
because assuming there's
terrain to do it over, you're going to have several hundred feet of 
ground-effect glide to play
with. Unless, like at N40, the runway sits up on a berm.

I frequently find that Bonanza and Mooney drivers misjudge what an Ercoupe

is going to do in the
pattern. They tend to jump in front of us like they would an Aeronca or J3

(rude!). Or, they'll extend
their down

Greg

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