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Point well taken Larry!  Also, remember that you replaced it the following
year. Good thinking.

Bob Saville



Larry wrote:

> Common sense is a strange, misunderstood quality that some people have
naturally, and others will never
> have no matter what they do.  You can't "learn" common sense.  Many
years ago, I had a Piper Colt.  I
> took it in for an annual, and it failed the punch test on the fabric.  I
decided to try another A&P, as
> the fabric looked OK.  Had one of the better mechanics in the area look
at it.  I was honest up front,
> and told him that it had failed the fabric punch test.  His comment was
to bring it in.  He commented
> that most mechanics didn't understand fabric, and thus only went by the
book.  He said that the punch
> test was designed to qualify fabric to withstand the speeds and stresses
of high performance aircraft
> such as Super Vikings and the like, and that an aircraft such as the
Colt didn't need to be up to those
> standards, as the stresses it was subject to would be much less.  He
pushed and pulled, poked and
> prodded, and then passed the annual.  We replaced the fabric the
following summer, as we knew the day of
> reckoning would be upon us within a year or so.  My point here is that
common sense ruled in this case.
> And, less you think this was a "paper" annual, this A&P was one of the
most respected in Utah County.
> My own common sense told me that the fabric was OK.  His just confirmed
it.
>
> Larry
>
> jan zanutto wrote:
>
> > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any advice in this forum.]----
> >
> > I think there was a day when common sense ruled, but now the FAA is
> > introducing FAR part 3 (I think it's 3)  and is in the NPRM stage. It
> > sets the guidelines for the criminal prosecution and heavy
penalties/jail
> > time for those who dont "follow the FARs".
> >
> > It is going to get harder to find people who will let common sense
guide
> > them with that kind of pressure looming over their heads.
> >
> > jan zanutto
> > fresno, ca
> >
> > On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 10:40:50 -0800 Bob Saville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before
following
> > > any advice in this forum.]----
> > >
> > > Hi Dick,
> > >     Safety is one thing, common sense is another.  Unfortunately the
> > > common denominator seems to usually
> > > be MONEY.
> > >     Is there another IA in the area who believes in safety but has a
> > > little better perspective of the
> > > other two legs of the triangel?
> > >
> > > Bob Saville
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dick Chevalier wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before
> > > following any advice in this forum.]----
> > > >
> > > > Just when you thought this thread was over...
> > > >
> > > > I am still in the throws of an annual on my Cardinal.  Seems that
> > > a steel
> > > > bushing in the tail that helps hold the stabilator on was at one
> > > time
> > > > replaced with an owner produced, slightly oversized part.  It was
> > > sloppy
> > > > around the bolt.  The bolt passes through two ball bearing races
> > > in the stab
> > > > and then through this bushing against which the inner race of the
> > > inner
> > > > bearing bears and is torqued.  Obviously the aluminum skin
> > > wouldn't be able
> > > > to take the pressure.
> > > >
> > > > The IA won't allow me to use a replacement oversized bushing,
> > > beautifully
> > > > machined by my neighbor.  He insists that a slightly oversized
> > > (.060)
> > > > bushing is not an "approved" repair.  He also insists that you
> > > can't owner
> > > > produce a part without knowing EXACTLY what kind of steel and
> > > plating were
> > > > used by the mfg. to make the original.  By the time the "support
> > > bracket" is
> > > > replaced with a used one and labor is added in this will cost me
> > > around
> > > > $500.
> > > >
> > > > I am of the opinion that the replacement of the original bushing
> > > with one of
> > > > ANY
> > > > material of similar hardness, even if slightly larger,
> > > accomplishes the
> > > > purpose intended for the part I.E. something for the inner bearing
> > > race to
> > > > be tightened against that will spread the loading into the
> > > aluminum skin,
> > > > and over a larger surface area.  Aparently so do a number of
people
> > > since
> > > > this is a fairly common method of repair among other owners and
> > > was already
> > > > done once to mine and entered into the logbook.  It is even
> > > arguable that
> > > > slightly larger is slightly better since the contact area is
> > > greater, and
> > > > since it is a bushing not a bearing the material hardness is not
> > > critical.
> > > > It certainly would be no less safe!
> > > >
> > > > Here is the point.  I expect an IA to apply frugality and common
> > > sense to a
> > > > repair.  Mine would rather cover his ass with my money.
> > > >
> > > > Dick in NM (and stuck there)
> > > >
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