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Hey Bob.   You sure are an agreeable sort of person all of a sudden.

Larry

Bob Saville wrote:

> Good Morning Craig,
>     I most certainly agree with everything that Larry says.  When things
start getting a little sloppy or
> out of sorts, the best thing to do is step back and look at your overall
procedure (back to basics).
> Remember what your first CFI told you about 'pattern set-up'.
>     Like Larry said, the pattern should be the same 'every time'.  Enter
at a 45 degree into your downwind
> at the same place, same speed and same altitude. Turn base at the same
place and altitude and again adjust
> your speed, same thing on final and aim at the same point for touchdown.
>     You can do a series of  'touch-n-go's'  they don't have to be full
stops every time.  If you are still
> to fast, next time reduce  your speeds by 5 mph on each leg.  If you
still feel to fast, reduce it by
> another 5 mph on the next go around, etc.
>     After you find (as Larry said) what feels 'right for you' do it a
couple of more times and be sure that
> you have it down to a routine that works every time.
>     Now, leave the pattern and go out and fly around for a few minutes
to 'relax'.  Then come back into the
> pattern on your 45 and do the rest of the pattern in the same way as you
were earlier and see if you can
> still 'ace' it. Aim for the same spot on the runway every time and
before long you'll be the best
> 'pattern-pilot' on the field (as long as Larry and I aren't on your
field)  <G>.
>     Just one word of warning, when you are reducing your speeds don't
get 'toooo' slow on your final. It's
> better land a little long than a little short.
>     Again, as Larry said, all speeds and headings must be adjusted
according to winds, but if you get
> 'really good' in a no wind situation, then all you have to think about
are the minor adjustments as
> everything else will now be 'habit' to you.
>     Have you ever heard about "the most dangerous 7 minutes of flight"?
(Did you notice that they're all in
> the pattern?)
>
> Good Luck Craig, "Practice, Practice, Practice"
>
> Bob Saville
> N3396H 415C
> Eugene, OR
>
> PS  ("Practice, Practice, Practice")    : - )
>
> Larry wrote:
>
> > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following
any advice in this forum.]----
> >
> > Craig,  It doesn't sound as though you have a problem with your
speeds.  More likely, you have a problem
> > with pattern uniformity.  In general, if you develop your own
speed/RPM procedure, only two things will
> > effect it;  distance and wind. If you keep your pattern the same on
every landing, and you adjust
> > speed/RPM the same each time, you will eventually touch down on the
numbers every time.  Wind, of
> > course, will require small adjustments to correct for drift.  But,
there is no magic formula that makes
> > it all come together (other than practice).  Develop your own
technique, and when it feels right for
> > you, it is right.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > Craig Helm wrote:
> >
> > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before
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> > >
> > > I am still trying to find the best (in most cases) speeds for
> > > downwind/base/final legs of my landing approaches.  Would be
interested
> > > in hearing from any other M10 pilots.  I have been flying about 100
mph
> > > / 800AGL on downwind, 90 mph on base, 80 on final.  I still haven't
> > > found the best power setting to keep my descent uniform, and usually
end
> > > up high or fast on final.  Would love to learn from others
experience.
> > >
> > > Craig Helm, Student Pilot
> > > '70 M10 N9512V
> > > Graham, TX (E15)
> > >
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