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Hell, Larry, I had to find 'something' nice to say for a change!   ; - )

Bob

Larry wrote:

> Hey Bob.   You sure are an agreeable sort of person all of a sudden.
>
> Larry
>
> Bob Saville wrote:
>
> > Good Morning Craig,
> >     I most certainly agree with everything that Larry says.  When
things start getting a little sloppy or
> > out of sorts, the best thing to do is step back and look at your
overall procedure (back to basics).
> > Remember what your first CFI told you about 'pattern set-up'.
> >     Like Larry said, the pattern should be the same 'every time'.
Enter at a 45 degree into your downwind
> > at the same place, same speed and same altitude. Turn base at the same
place and altitude and again adjust
> > your speed, same thing on final and aim at the same point for
touchdown.
> >     You can do a series of  'touch-n-go's'  they don't have to be full
stops every time.  If you are still
> > to fast, next time reduce  your speeds by 5 mph on each leg.  If you
still feel to fast, reduce it by
> > another 5 mph on the next go around, etc.
> >     After you find (as Larry said) what feels 'right for you' do it a
couple of more times and be sure that
> > you have it down to a routine that works every time.
> >     Now, leave the pattern and go out and fly around for a few minutes
to 'relax'.  Then come back into the
> > pattern on your 45 and do the rest of the pattern in the same way as
you were earlier and see if you can
> > still 'ace' it. Aim for the same spot on the runway every time and
before long you'll be the best
> > 'pattern-pilot' on the field (as long as Larry and I aren't on your
field)  <G>.
> >     Just one word of warning, when you are reducing your speeds don't
get 'toooo' slow on your final. It's
> > better land a little long than a little short.
> >     Again, as Larry said, all speeds and headings must be adjusted
according to winds, but if you get
> > 'really good' in a no wind situation, then all you have to think about
are the minor adjustments as
> > everything else will now be 'habit' to you.
> >     Have you ever heard about "the most dangerous 7 minutes of
flight"?  (Did you notice that they're all in
> > the pattern?)
> >
> > Good Luck Craig, "Practice, Practice, Practice"
> >
> > Bob Saville
> > N3396H 415C
> > Eugene, OR
> >
> > PS  ("Practice, Practice, Practice")    : - )
> >
> > Larry wrote:
> >
> > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before
following any advice in this forum.]----
> > >
> > > Craig,  It doesn't sound as though you have a problem with your
speeds.  More likely, you have a problem
> > > with pattern uniformity.  In general, if you develop your own
speed/RPM procedure, only two things will
> > > effect it;  distance and wind. If you keep your pattern the same on
every landing, and you adjust
> > > speed/RPM the same each time, you will eventually touch down on the
numbers every time.  Wind, of
> > > course, will require small adjustments to correct for drift.  But,
there is no magic formula that makes
> > > it all come together (other than practice).  Develop your own
technique, and when it feels right for
> > > you, it is right.
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > Craig Helm wrote:
> > >
> > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before
following any advice in this forum.]----
> > > >
> > > > I am still trying to find the best (in most cases) speeds for
> > > > downwind/base/final legs of my landing approaches.  Would be
interested
> > > > in hearing from any other M10 pilots.  I have been flying about
100 mph
> > > > / 800AGL on downwind, 90 mph on base, 80 on final.  I still
haven't
> > > > found the best power setting to keep my descent uniform, and
usually end
> > > > up high or fast on final.  Would love to learn from others
experience.
> > > >
> > > > Craig Helm, Student Pilot
> > > > '70 M10 N9512V
> > > > Graham, TX (E15)
> > > >
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