How much SF do you guys have?

I'm looking at a space with 3000 sf.

Planned Open Space Desks: ~32
Offices: 2 with 4-6 people each

I can't comment on utilization because we haven't opened yet.  We can break
even if we get both offices occupied, as well as ~30 full time members.  We
are paying $39 a sf.  I'm very torn between dedicated and shared desks, so
I haven't really decided what to do in that regard. (pricing / quantity /
culture)

I'm concerned about desk size.  I'm going for large tables, that 4 people
share.  So it would be 39 in x 73 in for one table.  Do you think that
would be enough for two people to face each other (3 ft 3 in) ? And side by
side (6ft 1 in)?

Does the # of desks sound reasonable given the sf?

Bruce


On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Susan Evans <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm late to this conversation but thought I'd add in Office Nomads data as
> of today, in case it is useful for the discussion about pricing and desk
> utilization that went on last week:
>
> 92 total members:
> 31 Residents (24/7 access, dedicated desk)
> 20 Basic Members (3 days/month)
> 43 Part-Time members (between 5-15 days/month)
>
> We have about 60 available desks in our space, depending on the day (and
> where the tables are!). So that's about 29 free desks on any given day,
> utilized by the 63 part-time and basic members here.
>
> We've only had a couple of days that we were actually at max capacity, and
> we're figuring that we're going to be at our maximum capacity to take on
> new members at some point here in 2012.
>
> We found that, similar to other spaces, having a mix of Resident and
> part-time desks at each "pod" we have around our space makes for a
> heightened level of vibrancy in the space. We also try our darndest to have
> Residents change the location of their desks regularly, but thus far most
> folks stay relatively stationary. Creatures of habit indeed.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
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>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Andy Stratton <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Sizeable Spaces is small (two floors). Floor one is 11 full/part-time
>> desks; floor two is a conference/coffee area and two private offices.
>>
>> We're currently at:
>>
>> 2 Private office "members" (for the private office, we allow 2-3 people
>> under a membership, they are more $)
>> 9 Full-time Desk Members
>> 4 Flex members (two are colleagues of two full-time desk members)
>>
>> We've outgrown capacity (in our first 6 months) and I'm finding there's a
>> very silent, but strong service/product independents and small (micro)
>> businesses that are in our area. It's the micro-community we had starting
>> that's actually just the beginning of tons of people in the area. This has
>> been outstanding.
>>
>> Meeting with the landlord Monday regarding the first floor (we're the top
>> 2 floors of the building) so we can expand and support more members and
>> take over the building.
>>
>> Our pricing is ~$500/office; and the rest is like Indy Hall's
>> $275/full-time dedicated desk (24/7); $175/three-day flex; $25/single day.
>> Additional days are $15/day.
>>
>> We've also been offering full-time members the $15/day rate for
>> additional flex people as available (two members have interns). As
>> availability changes and the space grows, we may need to move that to the
>> $25 first day + $15 additional days to keep some extra overhead in our
>> budget.
>>
>> Hope this info is helpful.
>>
>> --
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>> Web / Developer / Designer
>> 443-623-6835
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Alex Hillman <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Loving seeing the variations in what works - more sharing, please! I'd
>>> love to hear more about utilization:
>>>
>>>
>>>    - how many members you have signed as full time and how many are
>>>    some sort of flex
>>>    - how many workspaces you have available for full time and how many
>>>    are some sort of flex
>>>    - how many workstations are utilized. averages & ranges are welcome,
>>>    flex makes reporting these things tough!
>>>
>>> Our December numbers were:
>>>
>>>    - 33 full time members
>>>    - 117 flex members (~100 are basic, the rest somewhere in between)
>>>
>>>
>>>    - 33 full time workstations
>>>    - 27 flexible workspaces (not including the more casual work spaces
>>>    which are almost always in use as well)
>>>
>>>
>>>    - Full time workstations are assumed to be "occupied", but actual
>>>    attendance is in the mid 20's on a daily basis, helping with density. Our
>>>    average full time member is around for quite a while, so new spots
>>>    typically open up less than once a month.
>>>    - We rarely have more than 2-3 flex workstations idle these days,
>>>    but we also haven't had to turn anyone away just yet. We carefully toe 
>>> the
>>>    edge of "full" by paying close attention to how full we are and deciding 
>>> to
>>>    open up a new flex desk when a full time member disembarks, or open up a
>>>    new full time spot to help clear our full time waiting list.
>>>    - With 117 members sharing 27 workspaces, each flex workspace
>>>    currently supports ~4 people without any collisions. If we mandated
>>>    reservations, we could probably support more.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd love to see numbers from other spaces so we can compare ratios and
>>> see what else works.
>>>
>>> /ah
>>> indyhall.org
>>> coworking in philadelphia
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Mike Pihlman <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Cool discussion.  We have found out here that dedicated desks are the
>>>> most popular.  I currently have 6 rented. I have about 20 flex work areas
>>>> available, 3 of which are desks just like the dedicated desks, the rest are
>>>> round tables, barnes & noble wood hand me down tables, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I need to keep the flex so I can stack people at the same desks. But I
>>>> also need some optimum number of dedicated.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2012 11:54 AM, "Tom Brandt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> People did want someplace where they could leave stuff so we now have
>>>> lockers that almost all members use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I stand correcte...
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