$39 a foot seems ridiculous expensive; like what I'd imagine a moon base would cost. But then again, that's what we buy buildings for here in Detroit.
Andy Didorosi: Mobile 313-427-9668 On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]> wrote: > 3'-3" is very tight, but feasible. > 6'-1" is fine. > I'd recommend 3-4 person offices, so squeeze in a 3rd office. > > > Jerome > ______________ > BLANKSPACES > "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" > > www.blankspaces.com > ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, > CA 90036 > > On Jan 20, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Bruce Yang wrote: > >> How much SF do you guys have? >> >> I'm looking at a space with 3000 sf. >> >> Planned Open Space Desks: ~32 >> Offices: 2 with 4-6 people each >> >> I can't comment on utilization because we haven't opened yet. We can break >> even if we get both offices occupied, as well as ~30 full time members. We >> are paying $39 a sf. I'm very torn between dedicated and shared desks, so I >> haven't really decided what to do in that regard. (pricing / quantity / >> culture) >> >> I'm concerned about desk size. I'm going for large tables, that 4 people >> share. So it would be 39 in x 73 in for one table. Do you think that would >> be enough for two people to face each other (3 ft 3 in) ? And side by side >> (6ft 1 in)? >> >> Does the # of desks sound reasonable given the sf? >> >> Bruce >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Susan Evans <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm late to this conversation but thought I'd add in Office Nomads data as >> of today, in case it is useful for the discussion about pricing and desk >> utilization that went on last week: >> >> 92 total members: >> 31 Residents (24/7 access, dedicated desk) >> 20 Basic Members (3 days/month) >> 43 Part-Time members (between 5-15 days/month) >> >> We have about 60 available desks in our space, depending on the day (and >> where the tables are!). So that's about 29 free desks on any given day, >> utilized by the 63 part-time and basic members here. >> >> We've only had a couple of days that we were actually at max capacity, and >> we're figuring that we're going to be at our maximum capacity to take on new >> members at some point here in 2012. >> >> We found that, similar to other spaces, having a mix of Resident and >> part-time desks at each "pod" we have around our space makes for a >> heightened level of vibrancy in the space. We also try our darndest to have >> Residents change the location of their desks regularly, but thus far most >> folks stay relatively stationary. Creatures of habit indeed. >> >> Hope that helps! >> >> __ >> Office Nomads >> officenomads.com >> 206-484-5859 >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Andy Stratton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Sizeable Spaces is small (two floors). Floor one is 11 full/part-time desks; >> floor two is a conference/coffee area and two private offices. >> >> We're currently at: >> >> 2 Private office "members" (for the private office, we allow 2-3 people >> under a membership, they are more $) >> 9 Full-time Desk Members >> 4 Flex members (two are colleagues of two full-time desk members) >> >> We've outgrown capacity (in our first 6 months) and I'm finding there's a >> very silent, but strong service/product independents and small (micro) >> businesses that are in our area. It's the micro-community we had starting >> that's actually just the beginning of tons of people in the area. This has >> been outstanding. >> >> Meeting with the landlord Monday regarding the first floor (we're the top 2 >> floors of the building) so we can expand and support more members and take >> over the building. >> >> Our pricing is ~$500/office; and the rest is like Indy Hall's $275/full-time >> dedicated desk (24/7); $175/three-day flex; $25/single day. Additional days >> are $15/day. >> >> We've also been offering full-time members the $15/day rate for additional >> flex people as available (two members have interns). As availability changes >> and the space grows, we may need to move that to the $25 first day + $15 >> additional days to keep some extra overhead in our budget. >> >> Hope this info is helpful. >> >> -- >> Andy Stratton >> Web / Developer / Designer >> 443-623-6835 >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Loving seeing the variations in what works - more sharing, please! I'd love >> to hear more about utilization: >> >> how many members you have signed as full time and how many are some sort of >> flex >> how many workspaces you have available for full time and how many are some >> sort of flex >> how many workstations are utilized. averages & ranges are welcome, flex >> makes reporting these things tough! >> Our December numbers were: >> 33 full time members >> 117 flex members (~100 are basic, the rest somewhere in between) >> 33 full time workstations >> 27 flexible workspaces (not including the more casual work spaces which are >> almost always in use as well) >> Full time workstations are assumed to be "occupied", but actual attendance >> is in the mid 20's on a daily basis, helping with density. Our average full >> time member is around for quite a while, so new spots typically open up less >> than once a month. >> We rarely have more than 2-3 flex workstations idle these days, but we also >> haven't had to turn anyone away just yet. We carefully toe the edge of >> "full" by paying close attention to how full we are and deciding to open up >> a new flex desk when a full time member disembarks, or open up a new full >> time spot to help clear our full time waiting list. >> With 117 members sharing 27 workspaces, each flex workspace currently >> supports ~4 people without any collisions. If we mandated reservations, we >> could probably support more. >> >> I'd love to see numbers from other spaces so we can compare ratios and see >> what else works. >> >> /ah >> indyhall.org >> coworking in philadelphia >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Mike Pihlman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Cool discussion. We have found out here that dedicated desks are the most >> popular. I currently have 6 rented. I have about 20 flex work areas >> available, 3 of which are desks just like the dedicated desks, the rest are >> round tables, barnes & noble wood hand me down tables, etc. >> >> I need to keep the flex so I can stack people at the same desks. 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