Santa Monica...They're paying $36-$60/sf per year for office space here.  4% 
vacancy.  Parking is extra.


Jerome
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On Jan 20, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Andy Didorosi wrote:

> $39 a foot seems ridiculous expensive; like what I'd imagine a moon base 
> would cost. But then again, that's what we buy buildings for here in Detroit.
> 
> Andy Didorosi: Mobile
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> On Jan 20, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 3'-3" is very tight, but feasible.
>> 6'-1" is fine.
>> I'd recommend 3-4 person offices, so squeeze in a 3rd office.
>> 
>> 
>> Jerome
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>> On Jan 20, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Bruce Yang wrote:
>> 
>>> How much SF do you guys have?
>>> 
>>> I'm looking at a space with 3000 sf.
>>> 
>>> Planned Open Space Desks: ~32
>>> Offices: 2 with 4-6 people each
>>> 
>>> I can't comment on utilization because we haven't opened yet.  We can break 
>>> even if we get both offices occupied, as well as ~30 full time members.  We 
>>> are paying $39 a sf.  I'm very torn between dedicated and shared desks, so 
>>> I haven't really decided what to do in that regard. (pricing / quantity / 
>>> culture)
>>> 
>>> I'm concerned about desk size.  I'm going for large tables, that 4 people 
>>> share.  So it would be 39 in x 73 in for one table.  Do you think that 
>>> would be enough for two people to face each other (3 ft 3 in) ? And side by 
>>> side (6ft 1 in)?  
>>> 
>>> Does the # of desks sound reasonable given the sf?
>>> 
>>> Bruce
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Susan Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm late to this conversation but thought I'd add in Office Nomads data as 
>>> of today, in case it is useful for the discussion about pricing and desk 
>>> utilization that went on last week:
>>> 
>>> 92 total members:
>>> 31 Residents (24/7 access, dedicated desk)
>>> 20 Basic Members (3 days/month)
>>> 43 Part-Time members (between 5-15 days/month)
>>> 
>>> We have about 60 available desks in our space, depending on the day (and 
>>> where the tables are!). So that's about 29 free desks on any given day, 
>>> utilized by the 63 part-time and basic members here.
>>> 
>>> We've only had a couple of days that we were actually at max capacity, and 
>>> we're figuring that we're going to be at our maximum capacity to take on 
>>> new members at some point here in 2012. 
>>> 
>>> We found that, similar to other spaces, having a mix of Resident and 
>>> part-time desks at each "pod" we have around our space makes for a 
>>> heightened level of vibrancy in the space. We also try our darndest to have 
>>> Residents change the location of their desks regularly, but thus far most 
>>> folks stay relatively stationary. Creatures of habit indeed. 
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps!
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Andy Stratton <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Sizeable Spaces is small (two floors). Floor one is 11 full/part-time 
>>> desks; floor two is a conference/coffee area and two private offices.
>>> 
>>> We're currently at:
>>> 
>>> 2 Private office "members" (for the private office, we allow 2-3 people 
>>> under a membership, they are more $)
>>> 9 Full-time Desk Members
>>> 4 Flex members (two are colleagues of two full-time desk members)
>>> 
>>> We've outgrown capacity (in our first 6 months) and I'm finding there's a 
>>> very silent, but strong service/product independents and small (micro) 
>>> businesses that are in our area. It's the micro-community we had starting 
>>> that's actually just the beginning of tons of people in the area. This has 
>>> been outstanding.
>>> 
>>> Meeting with the landlord Monday regarding the first floor (we're the top 2 
>>> floors of the building) so we can expand and support more members and take 
>>> over the building.
>>> 
>>> Our pricing is ~$500/office; and the rest is like Indy Hall's 
>>> $275/full-time dedicated desk (24/7); $175/three-day flex; $25/single day. 
>>> Additional days are $15/day.
>>> 
>>> We've also been offering full-time members the $15/day rate for additional 
>>> flex people as available (two members have interns). As availability 
>>> changes and the space grows, we may need to move that to the $25 first day 
>>> + $15 additional days to keep some extra overhead in our budget.
>>> 
>>> Hope this info is helpful. 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Alex Hillman 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Loving seeing the variations in what works - more sharing, please! I'd love 
>>> to hear more about utilization: 
>>> 
>>> how many members you have signed as full time and how many are some sort of 
>>> flex
>>> how many workspaces you have available for full time and how many are some 
>>> sort of flex
>>> how many workstations are utilized. averages & ranges are welcome, flex 
>>> makes reporting these things tough!
>>> Our December numbers were:
>>> 33 full time members
>>> 117 flex members (~100 are basic, the rest somewhere in between)
>>> 33 full time workstations
>>> 27 flexible workspaces (not including the more casual work spaces which are 
>>> almost always in use as well)
>>> Full time workstations are assumed to be "occupied", but actual attendance 
>>> is in the mid 20's on a daily basis, helping with density. Our average full 
>>> time member is around for quite a while, so new spots typically open up 
>>> less than once a month.
>>> We rarely have more than 2-3 flex workstations idle these days, but we also 
>>> haven't had to turn anyone away just yet. We carefully toe the edge of 
>>> "full" by paying close attention to how full we are and deciding to open up 
>>> a new flex desk when a full time member disembarks, or open up a new full 
>>> time spot to help clear our full time waiting list.
>>> With 117 members sharing 27 workspaces, each flex workspace currently 
>>> supports ~4 people without any collisions. If we mandated reservations, we 
>>> could probably support more.
>>> 
>>> I'd love to see numbers from other spaces so we can compare ratios and see 
>>> what else works. 
>>> 
>>> /ah
>>> indyhall.org
>>> coworking in philadelphia
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Mike Pihlman <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> Cool discussion.  We have found out here that dedicated desks are the most 
>>> popular.  I currently have 6 rented. I have about 20 flex work areas 
>>> available, 3 of which are desks just like the dedicated desks, the rest are 
>>> round tables, barnes & noble wood hand me down tables, etc. 
>>> 
>>> I need to keep the flex so I can stack people at the same desks. But I also 
>>> need some optimum number of dedicated. 
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 14, 2012 11:54 AM, "Tom Brandt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> People did want someplace where they could leave stuff so we now have 
>>>> lockers that almost all members use.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I stand correcte...
>>>> 
>>> 
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