> Looking at our own membership levels (we have full time, 3 days/week, 1 
> day/week, 1 day/month), far and away the highest churn rates are in that 1 
> day/week level. 40% of all cancelations we’ve had are from that level. 


1 day a week churns more than 1 day a month. That’s a pretty HUGE clue about 
what the problem is.




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On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Andy Soell <aso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think there's a great deal of truth here, and I'm really curious about 
> other space's approaches to different membership levels (we're getting way 
> off topic here, but whatever). I think Jerome is absolutely right that it's 
> much harder to keep a part timer on board, probably due to their lack of 
> commitment and the fact that they just by nature of their membership aren't 
> around very much. At the same time, I also completely believe that a good 
> community is a diverse community, and that includes an even distribution of 
> people across different membership levels.
> Looking at our own membership levels (we have full time, 3 days/week, 1 
> day/week, 1 day/month), far and away the highest churn rates are in that 1 
> day/week level. 40% of all cancelations we've had are from that level. I'm 
> not sure what—if anything—is to be done about it, but I'm curious what 
> people have found useful in keeping people coming back who aren't coming 
> every day. I like offering once-a-week memberships, because I really think 
> everyone needs to get out of the house at least once a week, but it seems 
> like that's the level at which people eventually forget about the coworking 
> space and just drop off the face of the earth.
> On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 11:18:22 AM UTC-5, Jerome wrote:
>>
>> I think the below typically applies to smaller coworking spaces.
>> Well, let me rephrase:
>> the below is required for smaller spaces
>> larger spaces does not need to follow the below rule; BUT, should they, 
>> yes, I agree that the below would be ideal.
>>
>> That said, from my experience of being in the trenches for now, 7 years, I 
>> can comfortably say that recruiting full-timers is MUCH easier than 
>> part-timers.
>> Part-timers have to me, seem only part-ly motivated to join, whether due to
>> (1) they don’t want to spend $;
>> (2) they’re so attached with their status quo of their home office;
>> (3) their interest is so 50/50 fickle, any little thing can wane their 
>> interest.
>> Also, if you were to spend, say, 1 hour per new part-timer member, between 
>> the tour, follow-up(s), onboarding…to yield $100, and your goal is 10 
>> members, then you’ll spend 10 hours for those “sales”.
>> If you were to spend, say, the same 1 hour per new full-timer to yield 
>> $300, then you’d only need to spend a little over 3 hours for those “sales”.
>> The spread worsens if you seek $10k, or $20k. The very same many 
>> DIY/automated billing and other admin procedures you’ve focused to 
>> minimize, is being offset by exponentially more labor time to sell, or 
>> “cost of sales”.
>>
>> Is that the reason why exec suites probably only ‘rent’ full-time office 
>> spaces? Yes. Same efforts that yield way more $ revenue.
>> Is there a better mix between the below strategy and exec suites? Yes. And 
>> that will depend upon how you operate, your demographics, your size space, 
>> etc.
>>
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>> On Jan 30, 2015, at 6:11 AM, rachel young <rac...@camaraderie.ca 
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>>
>> I'll add another item to Jonathan\s list:
>>
>> 4 - Less diversity. 100 members with a flex or part time membership is 3x 
>> as many different occupations, passions, life experiences, and hobbies than 
>> 35 members with a full time membership, so the mix of people that members 
>> interact with will be much less with full time people packed in, but you 
>> can cap the number of full time members and ensure there are more part time 
>> or flex to make that diversity even more apparent and effective.
>>
>> We have three membership levels: lite, part time, and full time. I always 
>> aim for a mix of approximately 30%, 50%, 20%, respectively, with no cap on 
>> daypass users or non-space usage memberships (virtual/non-space usage 
>> network membership only).
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>> On 30 January 2015 at 05:42, <jonathan...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Many full-time members with permanent desks is absolutely a problem.
>>>
>>> We limit to a maximum of 40% of desks for full-timers. If you go too far 
>>> above that there are at least three common problems:
>>> 1) Part-time / flexible members don't feel like they have a significant 
>>> sense of ownership of the space. They are more inclined to feel like second 
>>> class citizens using spare desks. They then don't participate in the 
>>> community as much and that magnifies all sorts of other problems.
>>> 2) Revenue becomes less predictable. I'd rather have 100 people paying 
>>> $100 per month than 35 people paying $300. 
>>> 3) The space becomes less flexible. It's much more difficult moving a 
>>> permanent member's desk for a weekend or evening community activity.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>>
>>> Jon
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>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Marius Amado-Alves <amado...@gmail.com 
>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  "Too many full time members, not enough flex (or some variation on 
>>>> flex)."
>>>>
>>>> Er... many fulltimers is a *problem*?!?!?
>>>>
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