You may be surprised to see the landlords are ready to drop the rental
price 50% or even more. Just ask for it. Location is not everything but
quite important. Get a good carpenter and build tables and shelfs from
solid wood which you can use for many years and makes your space cool.

On May 9, 2017 00:02, "Kevin Haggerty" <kevinrhagge...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just wanted to write an update for those of you who have been following
> along with our progress in Gloucester, VA -- in particular to those of you
> who have helped and given valuable input along the way.
>
> If you recall, the situation has been fairly unique, in that the landlords
> (husband & wife) of the building we were looking to use were approaching
> things from a benevolent approach/perspective, and had chosen to focus on
> their desire to support the business and less about the agreement and our
> roles. Several of you (rightly) had apprehension over that, and in response
> to your advice of the advice of other mentors, I have been making firm
> efforts to nail them down on some kind of agreement over the past two
> weeks. (It hasn't been easy.)
>
> Long story as short as I can make it - the results have been
> disappointing. When I finally got them to give me some hard numbers, their
> proposal was $17.40/sq ft for the lease. To give frame of reference,
> commercial real estate in the area typically leases for anywhere from $6/sq
> ft up to $16/sq ft on the high end. So, we suddenly went from them being
> invested in the vision and wanting to help foster that to it being very cut
> and dry and them essentially making me a business offer that I'd have to be
> foolish to accept.
>
> The good news is that we got this out on the table now versus later.
>
> I did not respond to their offer right away (it was made during a meeting
> last Tuesday), as I wanted to have time to process and do research. I'm
> scheduled to meet with them this evening, where I will tell them I cannot
> accept their terms and see where the conversation goes. It's likely I'll
> need to walk away, which is totally ok, because I know it isn't about a
> building. :)
>
> Additionally, I've recently taken on a partner. She is a young lady who
> was looking to start a local small business incubator, and we both felt our
> similar interests and what we bring to the table would complement the other
> well. So, the focus has shifted a little, and the plan is now to create a
> coworking space that would also have a small business incubator built in,
> including an advisory board of mentors who are local business owners and
> entrepreneurs who have expertise and experience to share.
>
> Our group of interested coworkers continues to grow, and we're now up to
> about 20 people who have said they want in when the doors open.
>
> I also got an email from the local newspaper this morning, and they're
> looking to do an article on what we're trying to do.
>
> This afternoon, my partner and I are going to look at the upstairs of a
> local building as a possible alternative location. It's old and needs a lot
> of TLC, but the rent/lease is about 25% of what the other landlords were
> asking. The thought is that we could get our feet wet there and learn about
> running the space, and we could even just go cheap on the furniture by
> getting thrift store stuff, building certain aspects (floating wall desks),
> and just trying to operate n a shoestring budget until things take off.
>
> We've also found a local accountant who is going to help us make sure
> we're doing things by the book in that regard, and she will be on retainer
> for $150/month (which we think is pretty cheap).
>
> We're thinking about just going ahead and launching presales and doing
> some crowdfunding to help with upfront costs, but our fear is that people
> won't buy into that without a building/location. I'd love to hear from any
> of you who have been successful in similar circumstances.
>
> As always, I appreciate all feedback and support.
>
> More to come.
>
> ~Kevin
>
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