I don't think 9' x 13' is small, our huddle rooms are like 6' x 8' and they
get all the use.

Question on equipment....

Behringer Xenyx 1204USB Premium 12-Input 2/2-Bus Mixer $169

vs

Tascam US-2x2 USB Audio/MIDI Interface with Microphone Preamps and iOS
Compatibility $149

Any difference in any "expert's" mind?

We also are thinking it would be good to have a

Behringer Microamp HA400 Ultra-Compact 4-Channel Stereo Headphone Amplifier
$25

We've heard good things about these mics too.

Samson Q2U Handheld Dynamic USB Microphone $60.

We already have a blue Yeti hanging about and we have a couple of pairs of

Sennheiser HD280PRO Headphones plus a Zoom H4N recorder.

Brad


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On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 12:19 PM Trevor Townsend <1...@trevortownsend.com>
wrote:

> Hi all - I'm keenly watching this thread, too.  I'm interested in a small
> (really small, ~9'x13' room) sound room for podcasts, interviews, etc.  The
> rest of the time when not used like this it would a small (did I mention
> small?) meeting room or huddle space.  I'll be doing some of my own
> podcasting, too, but not for about another 6 months or so.  My overall
> space is a ~1,000sqft coworking site in Aylmer, Quebec that will be opening
> within a month (Mar/Apr 2019).
>
> Cheers,
> Trevor
>
> On Saturday, 9 March 2019 14:57:40 UTC-5, Fred Gallagher wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Alex, I am looking at Podcastiong being part of our set up here in
>> Donegal. It will help market the space and be an asset to the community as
>> well. Cheers, Fred
>>
>> On Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 3:56:57 PM UTC+1, Alex Hillman wrote:
>>>
>>> Trevor's advice is rock solid. You can go CRAZY with recording
>>> equipment, but a lot of it comes down to your goals. I also have the weird
>>> perspective of having had a brief career in audio engineering when I was a
>>> lot younger, so I learned a lot about how to suss out the best on a budget.
>>>
>>> We don't have a dedicated studio but we do have all of the gear
>>> available in one of our meeting rooms, which we've also given some light
>>> (but essentially invisible) acoustic treatment.
>>>
>>> We decided to keep it simple and focus on people recording 1 or 2 people
>>> max (but the same setup would be easy to upgrade to 4x)
>>>
>>> - This Tascam 2x2 Audio Interface
>>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2F07ca2455-6513-46ba-8e1c-50ffa0992761%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252FB00MIXF2RS%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3D9cec4e4154606375d1b69b754472d26a/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom>
>>>  is
>>> $150 USD. It takes approx 60 seconds for any mere mortal to learn even if
>>> they've never used a piece of audio gear. The quality is very good for the
>>> price, you can get slightly better for more but not that much better
>>> without spending way more.
>>> - We got a pair of these Shure 87A's
>>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2F3aac300d-fbab-4583-9882-9715036f1eba%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252FShure-Supercardioid-Condenser-Microphone-Applications%25252Fdp%25252FB0002BACBO%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3D5c927ad6315fe819915b52feddf90458/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom>
>>> and they are incredible. You want the *super-cardioid* style because
>>> they are VERY directional, basically only picking up the person directly in
>>> front of the microphone. This removes crosstalk of your people being picked
>>> up on each others' microphones, and even more importantly, makes it so you
>>> don't need an isolation booth to keep the outside world out of your audio. 
>>> Good
>>> microphones make everything else easier. We've had ours for 3ish years
>>> now, there might be a newer option out there but I'm very very very happy
>>> with these microphones.
>>> - Basic XLR cables to go between the Tascam and the microphones are
>>> pretty cheap, you can get whatever Amazon recommends.
>>> - Since we use the room for things other than recording, we learned that
>>> the spring loaded boom stands are in the way the rest of the time....and
>>> frankly the cheaper ones fall apart quickly anyway. More recently we opted
>>> for tabletop microphone stands like these
>>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2F66e1495d-e319-459b-8138-222ed68f12c1%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252FAdjustable-Foldable-Microphone-Meetings-Lectures%25252Fdp%25252FB01DXVYCT2%25252Fref%25253Dsr_1_8%25253Fs%25253Dmusical-instruments%252526ie%25253DUTF8%252526qid%25253D1523544188%252526sr%25253D1-8%252526keywords%25253Dmicrophone%25252Bstand%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3Da65c22a98410bb767350ceb8be9e160d/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom>
>>> .
>>> - Get pop filters
>>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2F0c78c035-14d0-4a98-9114-f96d04a5b8a2%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252FProfessional-Microphone-Stabilizing-Recordings-Broadcasting%25252Fdp%25252FB01N21H9WY%25252Fref%25253Dsr_1_3%25253Fs%25253Dmusical-instruments%252526ie%25253DUTF8%252526qid%25253D1523544258%252526sr%25253D1-3%252526keywords%25253Dpop%25252Bfilter%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3D1c73b8593e50d206602b384d15d61091/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom>.
>>> Trust me.
>>> - This is a "nice to have" but a good idea: we got one of these headphone
>>> splitters
>>> <https://mltrk.io/link/https%3A%2F%2Fclick.api.drift.com%2Fclick%2Faaf234fc-ae0e-400f-a30a-2f7f533f0b6c%3Fu%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fmltrk.io%252Flink%252Fhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.amazon.com%25252Fdp%25252FB01HO60NFO%25252Fref%25253Dasc_df_B01HO60NFO5437058%25252F%25253Ftag%25253Dhyprod-20%252526creative%25253D395033%252526creativeASIN%25253DB01HO60NFO%252526linkCode%25253Ddf0%252526hvadid%25253D193992629021%252526hvpos%25253D1o5%252526hvnetw%25253Dg%252526hvrand%25253D11491270912710683610%252526hvpone%25253D%252526hvptwo%25253D%252526hvqmt%25253D%252526hvdev%25253Dc%252526hvdvcmdl%25253D%252526hvlocint%25253D%252526hvlocphy%25253D9007285%252526hvtargid%25253Dpla-309645350540%252FpAJrunkVstrtCifPzwXi%26h%3D1d1dfaca4652da1545d31695fbd20330/uH3v0CfPHN4bwoMBrNom>
>>>  so
>>> that at *least *the host could put on a pair of headphones on to listen
>>> in live and make sure the audio quality is good. Some guests like wearing
>>> studio headphones too. Many don't (it's weird AF to listen to yourself in
>>> real time as you talk and takes practice getting used to). I like having
>>> both options and for $7 yeah.
>>>
>>> I also really like the ATR2100's as a microphone to keep in my backpack
>>> for doing things like intros and ad reads, but for the studio I wanted
>>> something that would make editing easier and better mics will essentially
>>> always cut time/costs on the editing side.
>>>
>>> That's about it for audio gear. With this setup people can record
>>> directly into their own computers using Garage Band (mac only) or Audacity
>>> (cross platform) both of which are pretty easy to learn the basics on
>>> Youtube, or through a quick informational session as a newbie on the
>>> recording rig.
>>>
>>> For the room itself, our room happens to be a strange shape (one wall is
>>> at a 45 degree of the rest) which is good for keeping the sound from
>>> bouncing around at right angles. Our floors are carpeted with basic FLOR
>>> carpet tiles, and ceilings have basic acoustical tiles in the grid. *The
>>> big thing is to avoid or hide unnecessary flat/glossy surfaces cuz they are
>>> echo machines.* We hung a curtain rod over our whiteboard so a curtain
>>> could be pulled to cover it. We also mounted some foam tiles *behind* 3
>>> pieces of art, basically tucked inside the recess of the canvas. The art
>>> looks awesome and the panels help soak up some sound.
>>>
>>> With the door closed on this room there's a *little* bit of sound
>>> leakage if someone is being loud on either side, but those super-cardioid
>>> microphones don't pick up anything unless you're within a few inches of the
>>> mic.
>>>
>>> *The best part about the podcasting setup is how it's brought people
>>> together. *
>>>
>>> We have members who know how to use the rigs, do basic editing, podcast
>>> promo/marketing, etc. This means newbies interested in creating a show can
>>> turn to each other for help. I know Trevor's crew has a whole podcast
>>> network in place, which is something we're definitely aspiring towards this
>>> year.
>>>
>>> The other really cool thing is how it's been a way to invite people who
>>> don't come to work during the day to come and hang out, and introduce their
>>> podcast guests to Indy Hall.
>>>
>>> We don't charge for recording time right now, you just need to be a
>>> member. In a few cases we've started asking people to mention us in the
>>> show, especially if we know that their audience overlaps with ours.
>>>
>>> In more than one case, a podcast has become someone's "gateway drug" for
>>> getting more connected into our community. Plus it's hella fun.
>>>
>>> -Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------
>>> *The #1 mistake in community building is doing it by yourself.*
>>> Better Coworkers: http://indyhall.org
>>> Weekly Coworking Tips: http://coworkingweekly.com
>>> My Audiobook: https://theindyhallway.com/ten
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 7:05 AM, Trevor Twining <trevor...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Craig,
>>>>
>>>> There's no easy options here, just trade-offs. So you're going to need
>>>> to understand your intended use more.
>>>>
>>>> Our first studio fit in a rubbermaid box and cost less than 500
>>>> Canadian dollars. We added things over time as people expressed interest.
>>>> Now we have mobile kit and a studio kit. We just make the room available to
>>>> our subscribers. No extra charge. First come, first served. Treating the
>>>> room also made it better suited to hosting and participating in webinars,
>>>> conferences, and video recording. So we also got a light kit, a green
>>>> screen, and now we're getting into more video work as well.
>>>>
>>>> Add some versatility to your mic setup by going with the ATR 2100s.
>>>> You'll get a great-sounding mic that works in rooms with some noise, but
>>>> can also just plug into a computer using USB. This makes it easy for
>>>> someone using the studio solo to just hook up direct.
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATR2100-USB-Cardioid-Dynamic-Microphone/dp/B004QJOZS4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1523530223&sr=1-1&keywords=atr2100
>>>>
>>>> A mixer will make it easy for people just getting started to use the
>>>> audio, but you'll need an audio interface rather than a mixer if you want
>>>> each mic to be on a separate track. A mixer will take each of those tracks
>>>> and 'mix' it down to two stereo tracks, which then goes into the computer's
>>>> typical sound card. An audio interface takes each input and brings it
>>>> directly into the computer. This means you can enhance each track
>>>> independently. The trade-off is that it's more complicated to edit the
>>>> audio in some ways (more than we have time for here). The long and the
>>>> short of it is that producers will all have different expectations, and
>>>> you'll need to be ready to cater to them and explain how your setup works
>>>> so that they can decide if it's suitable. We found that people with
>>>> existing shows were already set in their ways about how they wanted their
>>>> setup to operate. One way we moved past that at first was we targeted
>>>> people who had no podcast experience and helped them get started. So our
>>>> gear was the first gear they used.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, you're going to get more bang for your buck by spending some of
>>>> that budget on sound treating the room. How's that set up?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Happy to assist further if I'm able.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 7:26:34 PM UTC-4, Craig Baute - Creative
>>>> Density Coworking wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just had a coworking friend from Charlotte stop by and he mentioned
>>>>> how much their podcasting studio is adding energy to his space. So I 
>>>>> talked
>>>>> around and I can feel some of the same excitment building in our community
>>>>> when I bring it up here.
>>>>> So we are converting an interior office into a podcast studio. I want
>>>>> it to have professional equipment that is easy to use. This isn't going to
>>>>> be the highest end but good for business to make quality podcasts that
>>>>> sound great. We are doing this for a few reasons:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. The community wants one - granted not many but three members
>>>>>    would use it
>>>>>    2. Offices aren't exciting to me.
>>>>>    3. Competition is high in Denver for offices so this interior one
>>>>>    sits up 2 to 3 months out of the year and doesn't pull in much money, 
>>>>> $500,
>>>>>    even when it is rented.
>>>>>    4. It's new way to get people to create is fun and is a driver to
>>>>>    building a community
>>>>>    5. Anytime you give your community a tool to create it builds an
>>>>>    opportunity to bond over.
>>>>>    6. It should bring in revenue than the office. I'm hoping for 50%
>>>>>    higher.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm coming at this from a fairly naive perspective right now so I
>>>>> would love some feedback. Here is what I'm thinking. The podcasting studio
>>>>> will cost me around $700 in new furniture, purchased from IKEA. I'm 
>>>>> looking
>>>>> into this equipment which will cost me about $1500.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 of these mic set ups,
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Rode-Procaster-Booming-Kit-cable/dp/B00D390QZO/ref=pd_sbs_267_5?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00D390QZO&pd_rd_r=DZAKK8A0ZPHPCEQ2QSS0&pd_rd_w=mr88U&pd_rd_wg=fpqG9&psc=1&refRID=DZAKK8A0ZPHPCEQ2QSS0
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 channel mixer
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EDRUQXC/?coliid=I9QYQX1O17AXM&colid=PMLMWDDYP2ZY&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
>>>>>
>>>>> *Does anyone have any experience with a podcasting studio, things to
>>>>> try, pitfalls to avoid, etc?*
>>>>>
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