Tahir wrote:
>
> But I'm happy to leave politics and ideology out of it if
> that is the way that this must go. It is a worthwhile list
> anyway and the politico-ideological debate can happen
> elsewhere.
I don't think we should leave out the politico-ideological, on the contrary
I think it should be at the centre. My only concern is to make sure this
actually does happen, and to avoid misunderstandings and flame wars from
aborting that debate. There are two issues, (1) is there really a Crash?
and (2) what kind of politics does it entail? So far, we haven't got further
than the vaguest kinds of agreement that there is something wrong with the
climate, or that the oil/fish/freshwater etc is running out. Everything
beyond that point includes politics, geopolitics and ideology, surely.
Mark
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