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From: Mark Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
There are two issues, (1) is there really a Crash?
Mark, is there really any question? [if so, the Dieoff site should allay
any doubts]
> and (2) what kind of politics does it entail?
it involves the politics of ignorant greed and exploitation - call it
whatever name you may choose
So far, we haven't got further
> than the vaguest kinds of agreement that there is something wrong with the
> climate, or that the oil/fish/freshwater etc is running out.
not the 'vaguest'?
Perry
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