perry arnett wrote:

>> So far, we haven't got further
> > than the vaguest kinds of agreement that there is something
> wrong with the
> > climate, or that the oil/fish/freshwater etc is running out.
>
> not the 'vaguest'?


Well, OK, we're a bit further on than that, I agree.
I still don't see much sense of urgency though. We're still not persuading
many people.

Mark


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