En relaci�n a Re: [CrashList] Self Determination- Support It!,
el 23 Aug 00, a las 22:35, Julien Pierrehumbert dijo:
>
> Nestor,
>
> >Of course
> >I am not proposing a "super-imperialism" theory. Imperialists are
> >always eager to butcher each other. But, except under extreme stress,
> > such as it happened in 1914 and in 1939, they will not endanger
> >their grip of the rest of the globe. They are united vis � vis the
> >non- imperialist planet, in the sense that they need it to remain
> >under their hold and control.
>
> My understanding is rather that until 1945 (or until 1989 if you
> include the USSR & co. in the implerialist group) the imperialist
> powers routinely used the proceeds of colonial exploitation against
> one another and were willing to aid anti-imperialists in the territory
> of an opponent power.
a) you know that my definition of imperialism puts the USSR & Co. out
of the imperialist group
b) I would say that imperialists try to win anti-imperialists in the
territory of an opponent power even today. This does not mean that
when they don't succeed, and anti-imperialists who oppose _any_ form
of imperialism get to power, they don't unite against these "agents
of chaos". We true anti-imperialists (that is, simply national
revolutionaries in the Third World, our identity is not an "anti"
identity, it stands on its own feet) know that sometimes we can wage
one camp against the other. But we also know that unless under
exceptional conditions, they will always get to an agreement in order
to crush us if we become too serious a nuisance.
>
> >... and brought the USA to the edge of the abyss in Viet Nam,
>
> What do you mean?
I mean soldiers throwing fragmentation grenades under their officers'
bunks. That is what I mean. Varus, Varus...
>
>
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