I've tried to be good, but first I have to put up with some Adam and Eve
story about individuals existing before and outside their inevitably (ie.
always already) social setting (although already constituted as a nuclear
family), and now I have to listen to Tony getting taken to task for
explicitly pointing at some of the social ills that curse the vast majority
of this planet's people. What on earth Tony's post has to do with
totalitarianism, I can't even begin to fathom.
Yours biliously,
Rob.
>I'm sorry that I can't abstract from this long post, but Tony's point of
view
>is alienated, apparently, by the very concept of self-reliance. Or perhaps
he
>only sees black and white where the rest of us are seeing thousands of
shades
>of color and tones.
>Tony, it is not a case of having to do something, but rather preferring to
do
>it for oneself, in order to get it right the first time.
>Do you really want to trust the state to teach your child ethical values?
Do
>you have any children?
>I'm sure I'm mistaking your words to mean that you actually want the
>government to provide you with all the necessities of life. Do you want it
to
>tell you what to think, as well? I'm getting the impression that this is
the
>case. I suspect you have never lived in a totalitarian household. Strident?
>not really, more like Petulant.
>Joan
>
>In a message dated 8/30/00 6:30:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>writes:
>
><<
> I don't see home schooling in such a favorable light. This is just
> another case of a society that doesn't want to do anything of public
> benefit. Now, individuals have to take it amongst themselves to
> educate their children? What ever happened to the idea that society
> has some responsibilties to fulfill?
>
> What a nice green space? The hell with free, clean, and enjoyable
> parks. Go buy your own green piece of property.
>
> Want child care. Heck, it's your kid. Pay for it yourself.
>
> Want decent food? What's your budget? Aw, too bad..... have a
> 99 cent hamburger instead. What, don't have that? Here's a dime,
> now get out of my way.
>
> Want your kid to learn to read? What, you want government to do
> that? Take your kid and go fuck yourselves.
>
> Want a neighborhood that's not next to a highway, a refinery, or a
> shopping center? Stupid You, maybe you should earn a little more.
> We're not responsible for your individual defects.
>
> Sick.... then pay the bill or just die. It's not the government's
> concern. You are not your brother's keeper.
>
> I'm amazed that so many on this list, think that ANY problems can be
> solved while negociating with the criminals that run our present
> society. If we talk about it, it just seems so abstract and
> theoretical. Jeez!
>
> Capitalism fucks with the lifes of our children. It's pure ...... to
> think that capitalism can be reformed to do it better in the future.
> Go read a copy of something by Charles Dickens. How many centuries
> of reform effort do we need?
>
> Reform of capitalism doesn't work. The big guys want it all or
> nothing. And they will crash us all before they'll give an inch.
>
> If you want to do something to brake the race downhill, then you have to
> oppose your capitalist government. Wholeheartedly, and not just by
> voting for a Nader or two.
>
> I hope that I have not been too strident or doctrinaire, and that now
> the delicate will have to go elsewhere.
> >>
>
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