>
>Aaron, marxists don't think that the capitalist system is amenable to
>change, positive to ecological balance and renewal. This is what has
>been proven in the past. Every new technological advance has just
>been incorporated into the overall destructive process. This has led
>to a speedup of ecological destruction, not a solution to it.
>
>Elites do not make things better for others in their efforts to stay in
>power. Far from that, they make total misery for the rest of us, as
>they hide behind their fortified palaces. And they will continue to
>do so, even as they don special suits to maintain life in a super
>contaminated atmosphere. I would not see this as mere science
>fiction or speculative fantasy. It may be what comes to be, if class
>society continues to be sustained.
>
>Tony
Tony, many advances have been made in the past within a capitalist
system, at least in the industrialized north. To name just a few - the 8
hour work week, universal medical care [the US is the exception not the rule
among wealthy nations], universal old age pensions, the right to collective
bargaining, a minimum wage, the abolition of chlorine in the pulp and paper
industry[western Europe], the clean air act[US], the end of clearcut logging
in old growth forests[Canada],etc.
All of these things took long hard years of struggle to obtain, and many
are under attack. But the point is that all of these things were opposed by
elites before, during and after they were implemented. If a large enough
group of people puts enough pressure on, they will make a difference. Fear
has long forced those in power to capitulate to the demands of the people,
even when that capitulation means a chunk out of the bottom line.
If I believed you, then I may just as well return to an alcohol and drug
induced stupor, showing my displeasure with the current state of affairs
through random acts of violence. Because a socialist revolution is not yet
at hand, not even close.
Aaron.
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