Rather than adjusting the theory, we are now devaluing nature for being
arrogant enough to present us with a problem that can't be adjusted to fit
marxism????
Hmmmm. That's not the way reasoning and logic are supposed to work Usually
when one finds inadequacies in theories or hypotheses, one adjusts one's
understanding and alters the theory or hypothesis. This is a kind of heresy
to marxist thought?
Hang in there Tony, this stage of denial which your detractors are
experiencing can only last a few more months....
Tom
"How can we expect to stop them by emulating those that have been
destroyed?"
- The Holeyman
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Abdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 2:15 PM
Subject: [CrashList] Re: Warning Signs?
> John Woodford wrote...
> <What next, Tony? Will you argue that value is created by the risk the
> entrepreneur takes??>
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> Why would stating that nature has value, that should in fact be
> calculated as value, lead you to march me off in that direction?
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> <CB: Marx differentiates use-value and exchange-value. Nature is a
> source of use-values. It is not a source of exchange-values.>
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> I very much doubt that statement, Charles. Try finding out the
> difference in price between a piece of crop land with depleted soil, and
> overgrazed into desert, and a fertile piece of property with adequate
> water, that has been well cared for.
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> Or try this, a piece of land where pig sewage has been drained
> into...... What happens to the exchange value to all the
> surrounding area? Want to buy into that neighborhood? Or being
> in the position of trying to exchange out?
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> Isn't capitalism currently destroying value by destroying nature?
> What is the supposed difference in significance between 'use' and
> 'exchange' value?
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> Tony Abdo
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