Bravo, Tony!
This whole message is a "keeper".
Thanks for articulating these truths so coherently.
Tom
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From: Tony Abdo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>What we are talking about, is the
> shared desire of marxist and pro-capitalist economic observers to
> commodify value. ....
> This is why we know that we are headed for a crash, because the world's
> population senses that all the non-commodiifed value that has previously
> been taken for granted, is now being quickly destroyed by capitalism.
> Even if oil resources were infinite, this destruction of non-commodified
> value is destroying the life force of the planet, in a myriad of other
> ways. I would hope that the CrashList would be open to more than
> just analysis of petro production trends.
> I'll state it again. Most economic value is produced by nature,
> contrary to what Mark and Marx believe.
>
> To Marx, a fish in the river has no economic value, because it take a
> human hand to put it in the mouth! But it takes natures hand, to
> have the fish there available in the first place. Nature too, plays
> a role in the production of economic value. Marx and Mark just
> don't want to measure it as economic value. Why not?
>
> Both nature and human activity are necessary to get the fish in the
> mouth. Even before 'man' labored, nature got the food into mouths.
> Why denigrate it to the non-essential?
>
> The value is there. We need to start calculating it. And stop
> playing word games about defining a difference between material wealth,
> and economic value.
>
> Tony Abdo
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