Martin or Steve, can you give some examples of Place Names in *unnatural
language*? Yes "K10"

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-----Original Message-----
From: Crm-sig [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vladimir
Alexiev
Sent: 19 September 2014 10:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] More subclasses for E33_Linguistic_Object ?

> We use to solve this with multiple instantiation (E49, E33).

This is a good solution.
We had many examples of multiple instantiation in BM, esp of Events.

E.g. often an Acquisition is also Transfer of Custody, Part Addition (to the
new collection), Part Removal (from the old collection), maybe even Move.

> Note that most place names or not language specific. Few bigger places use
to have language variants.

But I don't think that's a criterion on whether something is a Linguistic
Object!
If it was, every unilingual book without translation would NOT be a
Linguistic Object.

The criterion is the scope note: Linguistic Object "identifiable expressions
in *natural language* or languages".
Let's consider the clases given by Dan, taking into account the class
hierarchy
http://personal.sirma.bg/vladimir/crm-graphical/#cidoc_class_hierarchy 

- E49_Time_Appellation: is not, eg "20140919" is not in natural language.
This comes from its E50_Date subclass
- E48_Place_Name: I think it is!!
  Martin or Steve, can you give some examples of Place Names in *unnatural
language*?
  The class name includes "Name", which suggests it is in *natural
language*.
  The scope note "particular and common forms of E44 Place Appellation" is
not helpful in making the distinction.
  Certainly its superclass E44 Place Appellation is not Linguistic Object,
since it includes Coordinates etc
- E75_Conceptual_Object_Appellation: "specific identifiers of intellectual
products or standardized patterns."
  The examples are not linguistic: ISBN 3-7913-1418-1, ISO2788-1986 (E)

> e.g. "Querelle des Bouffons" 

Dan, you should use E35_Title since P102 has title applies to E70_Thing,
therefore also applies to E28_Conceptual_Object.

But I fail to see the utility of E75_Conceptual_Object_Appellation:
- for "specific identifiers" use E42 Indentifier
- for names use E35_Title



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