Dear Patrick,
I believe the additional explanation "P9B forms part of: E5 Event: P9
consists of: E5 Event." is sort of an overkill.
The subproperty-of-declaration "E7 Activity: P15 was influenced by
(influenced):E5 Event"
should simply be replaced by:
"E7 Activity: P15 was influenced by (influenced):E2 Temporal Entity".
The fact how this Temporal Entity relates to the Recording Event itself
is not necessary to be formally declared in order to achieve CRM
compatibility. It appears to me, that Recording Event is a special case
of the new Observation class in CRMSci, but this is not CRM "proper".
The states that can be recorded should overlap temporally with the
Recording Event, and refer to observable phenomena within the space of
the event. I fear we are not yet in a position to
describe these things adequately in logical terms, so may be better just
leave it to the scope note?
Best,
Martin
On 25/2/2015 12:02 μμ, [email protected] wrote:
Dear all,
Yes, this "Subproperty of" actually reflects a former state of the
model, in which the range of R20 was E5 Event. It was me who asked
that the range be relaxed to E2 Temporal Entity, as the fist example
for F21 Recording Work clearly refers to the recording of a condition
state, but I overlooked the fact that this conflicts with the
"Subproperty of" statement. I think this could be solved by declaring
two "Subproperty of shortcut of" statements, on the same pattern as
for R65 recorded aspects of, one resulting in E5 Event, and one
resulting in E3 Condition State.
Best wishes,
Patrick
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Dear all,
The FRBR property R20 recorded with Domain:F29 Recording Event and Range:
E2 Temporal Entity is declared as a subproperty of E7 Activity: P15 was
influenced by (influenced):E5 Event: P9B forms part of: E5 Event: P9
consists of: E5 Event.
This path makes sense up to the …influenced by –part. The
range of this influence can be anything (E1 CRM Entity) but not an E5
event (which is a subclass of E2 and not a superclass) and additionally, a
part-whole relationship (P9 consists of) can not be assigned to E2
Temporal Entities (only to E4 Periods)-as it is declared in CRM.
Consequently, the question is how can we describe events having as parts
states? (because it seems that this was the intention to capture with this
property: Recording Events recorded: Temporal Entity (and the subproperty
mentioned above).
RGs
Athina Kritsotaki
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