Preach it brother!

Guys, you only need 87 octane in your stock engine.  Anything more is a 
waste of money. Why spend money on stuff that isn't as good for your engine 
as the cheaper stuff?


At 08:30 AM 10/16/2002 -0500, David Miller wrote:
>One fact of life that most people ignore or refuse to believe...... the 
>higher the octane, the more difficult it is to start a cold 
>vehicle.  Higher octane means slower burning (and starting!)  It is fine 
>for warm engine / environment, but when the temperature begins to drop, so 
>does the ability of starting the engine.
>
>YMMV -
>
>David Miller
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>'89 CRX DX, white, 198K miles
>'90 CRX Si, yellow, 49K miles
>'02 Civic EX, ruby, 22K miles
>'96 Helix, black, 16K miles
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nick Kosiek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:52 AM
>To: 'Willy'; crx
>Subject: CRX: RE: riddle me this?!
>
>
>   I don't really know if this may be the fact or if it may even be true, but
>I took my wifes Acura 3.2 TL in not too long ago because it had the same
>sounding symptoms when it would start in the morning.  I paid the dealer 70$
>because I really could not figure it out my self.  The gent comes back and
>tells me It is excessive build of carbon on the valve stems and piston tops
>so when the injectors prime every morning the carbon absorbs the majority of
>the fuel , until the carbon is saturated with fuel it then runs fine.  He
>stated to use fuel addatives for a couple months to clean it all out.  I use
>Mystery Marvel Oil and always 93 Octane at every fuel up and ever since the
>car runs great.  My CRX runs with octane booster at every fill up just
>because the ZC likes to drink it better and run smoother.
>   I see you stated you use injector cleaner once a month so this may not
>apply to you, but if you know Honda Engines they are great carbon builders.
>   Have you noticed this problem after you use the injector cleaner?
>   To me this stuff with the carbon and fuel on my wifes Acura is new to me.
>
>
>Nick K
>Jacksonville, Fl
>
>--1990 CRX DX--
>Timeline -      1-1.5 SOHC      -Intentially ran into the ground
>                 1-1.6 SOHC      -Same deal
>                 2-ZC's  -Starved Oil on the first, and the second runs
>Perfect.
>DC Sports Header, Original Weapon R Half Cold Air Intake, 1991 SI Tranny,
>Lightened Flywheel, ACT Street disc with Extreme Pressure Plate, NGK
>Ignition Wires, NipponDenso Iridium SparkPlugs, Greddy/Trust SP Exhaust,
>Test Pipe(No Cat), Eibach Prokit, OE Struts-(The actual originals pending
>replacement along with the bushings), Strut tower Bars Front and Rear, Lower
>rear tie bar, Power Slot rotors, Half Destroyed WingsWest RS Front bumper,
>Flat Black Paint/primer Exterior, 1998 HX Civic Rims 14 inch powder coated
>bronze, and GUTTED interior -
>  - Under Construction since 1998, still under construction Pending Funding.
>
>"Looks aren't everything, It's all about what's inside that counts"
>
>-----What do you think would cause a car (mine obviously) to not want to
>start when it's cold**, but once warmed up, it starts fine.----

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