I cant stress this enough to people...
I am an engineer. my work is under appriciated. Some Engineer at honda
sat at his little desk designing the D series engines. as he sat there, he
read as one of his engineering requirements "Runs on 87 octane fuel" and
designed the engine with that in mind. Don't waste that poor persons time
or your money. Run 87. :) if it knocks when you run 87, you have a
problem. If you have your timing advanced, thats different, you are already
screwing with his design and its out of his hands anyway at that point. :)
-Chad Sullivan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Bankston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Nick Kosiek"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Willy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "crx"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: CRX: RE: RE: riddle me this?!
> Preach it brother!
>
> Guys, you only need 87 octane in your stock engine. Anything more is a
> waste of money. Why spend money on stuff that isn't as good for your
engine
> as the cheaper stuff?
>
>
> At 08:30 AM 10/16/2002 -0500, David Miller wrote:
> >One fact of life that most people ignore or refuse to believe...... the
> >higher the octane, the more difficult it is to start a cold
> >vehicle. Higher octane means slower burning (and starting!) It is fine
> >for warm engine / environment, but when the temperature begins to drop,
so
> >does the ability of starting the engine.
> >
> >YMMV -
> >
> >David Miller
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >'89 CRX DX, white, 198K miles
> >'90 CRX Si, yellow, 49K miles
> >'02 Civic EX, ruby, 22K miles
> >'96 Helix, black, 16K miles
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Nick Kosiek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:52 AM
> >To: 'Willy'; crx
> >Subject: CRX: RE: riddle me this?!
> >
> >
> > I don't really know if this may be the fact or if it may even be true,
but
> >I took my wifes Acura 3.2 TL in not too long ago because it had the same
> >sounding symptoms when it would start in the morning. I paid the dealer
70$
> >because I really could not figure it out my self. The gent comes back
and
> >tells me It is excessive build of carbon on the valve stems and piston
tops
> >so when the injectors prime every morning the carbon absorbs the majority
of
> >the fuel , until the carbon is saturated with fuel it then runs fine. He
> >stated to use fuel addatives for a couple months to clean it all out. I
use
> >Mystery Marvel Oil and always 93 Octane at every fuel up and ever since
the
> >car runs great. My CRX runs with octane booster at every fill up just
> >because the ZC likes to drink it better and run smoother.
> > I see you stated you use injector cleaner once a month so this may not
> >apply to you, but if you know Honda Engines they are great carbon
builders.
> > Have you noticed this problem after you use the injector cleaner?
> > To me this stuff with the carbon and fuel on my wifes Acura is new to
me.
> >
> >
> >Nick K
> >Jacksonville, Fl
> >
> >--1990 CRX DX--
> >Timeline - 1-1.5 SOHC -Intentially ran into the ground
> > 1-1.6 SOHC -Same deal
> > 2-ZC's -Starved Oil on the first, and the second runs
> >Perfect.
> >DC Sports Header, Original Weapon R Half Cold Air Intake, 1991 SI Tranny,
> >Lightened Flywheel, ACT Street disc with Extreme Pressure Plate, NGK
> >Ignition Wires, NipponDenso Iridium SparkPlugs, Greddy/Trust SP Exhaust,
> >Test Pipe(No Cat), Eibach Prokit, OE Struts-(The actual originals pending
> >replacement along with the bushings), Strut tower Bars Front and Rear,
Lower
> >rear tie bar, Power Slot rotors, Half Destroyed WingsWest RS Front
bumper,
> >Flat Black Paint/primer Exterior, 1998 HX Civic Rims 14 inch powder
coated
> >bronze, and GUTTED interior -
> > - Under Construction since 1998, still under construction Pending
Funding.
> >
> >"Looks aren't everything, It's all about what's inside that counts"
> >
> >-----What do you think would cause a car (mine obviously) to not want to
> >start when it's cold**, but once warmed up, it starts fine.----
>
>
