Actually, if you advance your timing for more top end power, you need
higher octane even on an otherwise stock engine...

Ricky




On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Brandon Bankston wrote:

> Preach it brother!
> 
> Guys, you only need 87 octane in your stock engine.  Anything more is a 
> waste of money. Why spend money on stuff that isn't as good for your engine 
> as the cheaper stuff?
> 
> 
> At 08:30 AM 10/16/2002 -0500, David Miller wrote:
> >One fact of life that most people ignore or refuse to believe...... the 
> >higher the octane, the more difficult it is to start a cold 
> >vehicle.  Higher octane means slower burning (and starting!)  It is fine 
> >for warm engine / environment, but when the temperature begins to drop, so 
> >does the ability of starting the engine.
> >
> >YMMV -
> >
> >David Miller
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >'89 CRX DX, white, 198K miles
> >'90 CRX Si, yellow, 49K miles
> >'02 Civic EX, ruby, 22K miles
> >'96 Helix, black, 16K miles
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Nick Kosiek [mailto:NickKosiek@;winn-dixie.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:52 AM
> >To: 'Willy'; crx
> >Subject: CRX: RE: riddle me this?!
> >
> >
> >   I don't really know if this may be the fact or if it may even be true, but
> >I took my wifes Acura 3.2 TL in not too long ago because it had the same
> >sounding symptoms when it would start in the morning.  I paid the dealer 70$
> >because I really could not figure it out my self.  The gent comes back and
> >tells me It is excessive build of carbon on the valve stems and piston tops
> >so when the injectors prime every morning the carbon absorbs the majority of
> >the fuel , until the carbon is saturated with fuel it then runs fine.  He
> >stated to use fuel addatives for a couple months to clean it all out.  I use
> >Mystery Marvel Oil and always 93 Octane at every fuel up and ever since the
> >car runs great.  My CRX runs with octane booster at every fill up just
> >because the ZC likes to drink it better and run smoother.
> >   I see you stated you use injector cleaner once a month so this may not
> >apply to you, but if you know Honda Engines they are great carbon builders.
> >   Have you noticed this problem after you use the injector cleaner?
> >   To me this stuff with the carbon and fuel on my wifes Acura is new to me.
> >
> >
> >Nick K
> >Jacksonville, Fl
> >
> >--1990 CRX DX--
> >Timeline -      1-1.5 SOHC      -Intentially ran into the ground
> >                 1-1.6 SOHC      -Same deal
> >                 2-ZC's  -Starved Oil on the first, and the second runs
> >Perfect.
> >DC Sports Header, Original Weapon R Half Cold Air Intake, 1991 SI Tranny,
> >Lightened Flywheel, ACT Street disc with Extreme Pressure Plate, NGK
> >Ignition Wires, NipponDenso Iridium SparkPlugs, Greddy/Trust SP Exhaust,
> >Test Pipe(No Cat), Eibach Prokit, OE Struts-(The actual originals pending
> >replacement along with the bushings), Strut tower Bars Front and Rear, Lower
> >rear tie bar, Power Slot rotors, Half Destroyed WingsWest RS Front bumper,
> >Flat Black Paint/primer Exterior, 1998 HX Civic Rims 14 inch powder coated
> >bronze, and GUTTED interior -
> >  - Under Construction since 1998, still under construction Pending Funding.
> >
> >"Looks aren't everything, It's all about what's inside that counts"
> >
> >-----What do you think would cause a car (mine obviously) to not want to
> >start when it's cold**, but once warmed up, it starts fine.----
> 
> 

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