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true, but I consider a timing advance to be a mod, which therefore means
the engine is no longer stock ;)


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Actually, if you advance your timing for more top end power, you need
> higher octane even on an otherwise stock engine...
> 
> Ricky
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Brandon Bankston wrote:
> 
> > Preach it brother!
> > 
> > Guys, you only need 87 octane in your stock engine.  Anything more is
a 
> > waste of money. Why spend money on stuff that isn't as good for your
engine 
> > as the cheaper stuff?
> > 
> > 
> > At 08:30 AM 10/16/2002 -0500, David Miller wrote:
> > >One fact of life that most people ignore or refuse to believe......
the 
> > >higher the octane, the more difficult it is to start a cold 
> > >vehicle.  Higher octane means slower burning (and starting!)  It is
fine 
> > >for warm engine / environment, but when the temperature begins to
drop, so 
> > >does the ability of starting the engine.
> > >
> > >YMMV -
> > >
> > >David Miller
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >'89 CRX DX, white, 198K miles
> > >'90 CRX Si, yellow, 49K miles
> > >'02 Civic EX, ruby, 22K miles
> > >'96 Helix, black, 16K miles
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Nick Kosiek [mailto:NickKosiek@;winn-dixie.com]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:52 AM
> > >To: 'Willy'; crx
> > >Subject: CRX: RE: riddle me this?!
> > >
> > >
> > >   I don't really know if this may be the fact or if it may even be
true, but
> > >I took my wifes Acura 3.2 TL in not too long ago because it had the
same
> > >sounding symptoms when it would start in the morning.  I paid the
dealer 70$
> > >because I really could not figure it out my self.  The gent comes
back and
> > >tells me It is excessive build of carbon on the valve stems and
piston tops
> > >so when the injectors prime every morning the carbon absorbs the
majority of
> > >the fuel , until the carbon is saturated with fuel it then runs fine.
 He
> > >stated to use fuel addatives for a couple months to clean it all out.
 I use
> > >Mystery Marvel Oil and always 93 Octane at every fuel up and ever
since the
> > >car runs great.  My CRX runs with octane booster at every fill up
just
> > >because the ZC likes to drink it better and run smoother.
> > >   I see you stated you use injector cleaner once a month so this may
not
> > >apply to you, but if you know Honda Engines they are great carbon
builders.
> > >   Have you noticed this problem after you use the injector cleaner?
> > >   To me this stuff with the carbon and fuel on my wifes Acura is new
to me.
> > >
> > >
> > >Nick K
> > >Jacksonville, Fl
> > >
> > >--1990 CRX DX--
> > >Timeline -      1-1.5 SOHC      -Intentially ran into the ground
> > >                 1-1.6 SOHC      -Same deal
> > >                 2-ZC's  -Starved Oil on the first, and the second
runs
> > >Perfect.
> > >DC Sports Header, Original Weapon R Half Cold Air Intake, 1991 SI
Tranny,
> > >Lightened Flywheel, ACT Street disc with Extreme Pressure Plate, NGK
> > >Ignition Wires, NipponDenso Iridium SparkPlugs, Greddy/Trust SP
Exhaust,
> > >Test Pipe(No Cat), Eibach Prokit, OE Struts-(The actual originals
pending
> > >replacement along with the bushings), Strut tower Bars Front and
Rear, Lower
> > >rear tie bar, Power Slot rotors, Half Destroyed WingsWest RS Front
bumper,
> > >Flat Black Paint/primer Exterior, 1998 HX Civic Rims 14 inch powder
coated
> > >bronze, and GUTTED interior -
> > >  - Under Construction since 1998, still under construction Pending
Funding.
> > >
> > >"Looks aren't everything, It's all about what's inside that counts"
> > >
> > >-----What do you think would cause a car (mine obviously) to not want
to
> > >start when it's cold**, but once warmed up, it starts fine.----
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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