On 10/24/05, Al Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christian Montoya wrote:
> >>>> http://www.3tc4u.co.uk/
>
> >> The page is partially reloading when the window is resized. It's
> >> not
> >> a good solution and it is breaking while the script reruns. If a
> >> scripted solution is acceptable, that would not be a good example.
> >> I'm with you, though, on wanting to see some really good and stable
> >> liquid layouts. They are few and far between.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Al
> >>
> >
> > Partially reloading? Is that a real concern? How many IE users are
> > going to resize their window? I understand the problem but I don't
> > think it makes the website a bad example.
> >
> > I'm working on some good liquid layouts that involve making
> > max-width
> > "bulletproof" but I'm too busy right now, I have exams and all.
> > Patience, please.
> >
> > Until then, I know it's not attractive but did you test
> > http://liquid.rdpdesign.com ?
>
>
> That's worse. Much worse. Big John's Jello thing works smoothly. And
> our flubber layout also works smoothly:
> http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/minmax/cssp5.htm
>
>
> I understand that some folks look down their noses at IE but they
> might as well just cut the nose off to spite their face ;-) IE is
> defective, but not to the extent it's made out to be. It's fixable and
> people attempting to learn CSS sometimes get a sermon on the evils of
> Microsoft when they should be tutored on the business sense it makes
> to create layouts that work stably in the world's most widely used
> browser - especially when it's not that difficult.
>
> No disrespect intended, but the two sites I commented on are good
> examples of what not to do with CSS and JavaScript.
>
> Al Sparber
> PVII
> http://www.projectseven.com

OK, but when testing this "flubber" layout in IE, I see that it's
fixed. Your solution would be to give IE a fixed width layout? How
does that make sense? I would much rather use a jittery scripting
solution to ensure accessibility to IE users, who I know won't be
resizing their browser windows, than give them a fixed layout at 1024
px or even 800 px when I know that those users are most likely the
ones who would benefit from a 640 px layout.

btw, thanks for the heads up on liquid.rdpdesign.com, I'll fix that eventually.

Now here's another example for you all:
http://pro.html.it/esempio/proglayout/2col.html

Assume this was only given to IE. No jitters. Just a smooth snap. Any
complaints?

--
C Montoya - I hate dash dash
rdpdesign.com ... liquid.rdpdesign.com ... montoya.rdpdesign.com
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