On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Ben Fider wrote: > I could hand code all day long using only a text editor like Notepad > or > Crimson editor. > > But, I use DW's code view to build most everything, because as I > type HTML > and CSS it beautifully suggests what I begin to type and finishes it > (if I > so choose). This speeds up my coding big time. > > Furthermore, if you define you document, DW will offer suggestions > as you > type ASP, JSP, PHP too (I believe)... like Eclipse. > > But, job descriptions often read "hand coders only" which would lead > me to > deny that I use DW at all. > > Ben > > On Jan 25, 2008 12:46 PM, Scott Thigpen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Hi Guys, >> >> Yesterday I was up for a job to take on a big website and design >> it. They >> were real impressed with my work, everything was going well until I >> said I >> coded with the aid of Dreamweaver. Then you would have think I had >> punched >> the guy in the mouth. I mean there was not even "well we'll think >> about >> it" >> it was "we only use hand coders." I'm not above doing hand coding, >> but I >> have no earthly idea where even to start without dreamweaver >> holding my >> hand. >> >> So do most of you guys hand code? Or do you use a wsywig editor to >> help? >>
It's funny, I can remember the days (pre-2000) when saying you used DreamWeaver over other tools like FrontPage meant you were a 'real' web professional as opposed to a wannbe drone. Sad, these days anyone who uses a tool like DW or Expression Engine to develop HTML/CSS, are looked upon as total posers. As a developer and a one-time manager I can let you know part of the issue. Most companies want to hire a person who know the mechanics around an unordered list for example. This knowledge is not so much how to select the option from the DW menu but instead do you really get HTML and can name the options a list item for example might have. It's about being intimate with the code being produced and using your knowledge of Web Standards and semantic markup. The areas were sadly most tools do not 100% fit. Another part of the issue is a person who uses a tool like DW generally can only function inside DW. Now this is not everyone so please no flaming. I've run across many so called developers who were so knowledgeable about how to do something in DW that they really could not function without the tool. Something as simple as looking at view source HTML code from a browser from totally foreign to them. But again they could do amazing things inside the tool. Again, I'm not calling anyone out or making assumptions on your knowledge of HTML of your general abilities. You may be very knowledgeable in the area of HTML and CSS and simple use DW under code view because you like it. Just my thoughts and maybe a little insight. Paul Menard http://codehooligans.com ______________________________________________________________________ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.org/policies.html Supported by evolt.org -- http://www.evolt.org/help_support_evolt/
